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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They use fewer resources per capita on health care than we do.

    In fact, Canadians spend fewer tax dollars per capita than we do on healthcare. Think about that. Not only do you pay more in taxes for health care than a Canadian does, you have to get private insurance on top of it!

    People trying to make cost arguments against UHC are hilarious.
    And we insure many more times the people they do.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You are still infintessimally small, have many times the natural resources per capita than virtually any nation in the world and are still straining on the healthcare funding. Grow some and we'll take a look at how your system handles the strain of significantly greater use.
    Yep got really lucky to be located were we are. As for straining on healthcare funding, that's very true and has been since the inception of medicare in the 60's. Its a constant tension but it also tends to rein in spiraling costs and sparks creative solutions. Our per capita spending on health care is 35 to 40% less than in the US. Comparison of overall outcomes is favorable, except at the very high end where nobody can come close to the US. (cheney is living proof of that). Of course for the lower income brackets canada's system is quite a bit better, since all our citizens are covered.

    Our system is inherently scalable. That's the beauty of a single payer system. The billing and payment admin is standardized and efficient. It can grow without too many problems.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    I support Obama's statements on this. Everyone should be offered the opportunity to achieve and earn success and it is not entitled to anyone.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And we insure many more times the people they do.
    which should bring the costs down. You do know how insurance works don't you? its a form of redistribution.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I never really could figure out what people mean by relate to the people, but to me democrats have no business saying such things when they policies are in many ways responsible for the divisions in this country be them between the classes or between the young and the old.
    I suppose any political party can say whatever it wants, Henrin, and the less sophisticated members of society sincerely seem to believe that the government can give them free Obamaphones, that the government can 'redistribute' the wealth, give them free food, free medical, free gas for their cars. free mortgages and that the government can create a 'just' society. They don't really think these things through.

    This is another example of Obama supporters.

    UW Madison Students: 'Unfair' That Obama Couldn't Use Teleprompter in Debate
    I know they don't want to hear it but what they believe in is in many ways morally corrupt.
    Yes. of course. They want the government doing what friends, family and neighbors should be doing. But since the government began destroying the family and have tried to turn race against race, rich against poor, and even women against men, society has become fragmented and dependent on government for its needs. But of course government cannot continue to supply those needs, as we have seen elsewhere. Trillions of dollars in debt and still promises are being made to an evermore dysfunctional culture.

    It's not pretty, Henrin.

    You summed it up nicely.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Well, the President should pick up his words more carefully then
    I read the whole quote, and I didn't see anything wrong with what he said or how he worded it...

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I read the whole quote, and I didn't see anything wrong with what he said or how he worded it...

    we are all entitled ... entitled? no pun intended... to our ideas , aren't we

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. You claim Romney saved Staples. Now provide the evidence he did. Not just bland claims. Show us how. What he did etc.
    Oh, settle down and quit being silly!

    Look at the speech from the founder of Staples and you'll learn a great deal more than what you do right now.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Why not listen to the speech and learn for yourself[QUOTE=Pinkie;1060992021]
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    I'm guessing Romney "saved" Staples by laying off workers, eliminating the pension and lowering wages.

    Am I warm?
    Why not listen to the speech and learn for yourself?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    [QUOTE=Pinkie;1060992067]
    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    Well, as I have said, I watched this go on. The object was to make money, and the targets were only sometimes "companies on the verge of bankruptcy". Most were better characterized as having riches that had not been plundered, such as employee pension plans.
    You've watched it go on, huh?

    The object of everyone's labors is to make money.

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