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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama wants to regulate who succeeds and how much they succeed.

    "redistribution, which I believe in"

    "at some point, you've made enough money"

    Those people that helped you. What was in for them?
    When you provide me with the entire quotes and context then I will be happy to look, as it is my quota for doing research on snippets has been met in this thread. I have said many times my vote is still up in the air. I am waiting for one of these guys to claim it. Neither Romney nor Obama have done a good job yet.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Ah yes, gentlemanly debate is such an endearing quality in some folks
    You were the one who said "making a profit is moral"
    And you tried to turn it into something ugly. This is why I have so little to do with you. This is an anti-American, immoral thing to do.
    I see that your lean is Taker, or is it mastermind?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Well, there you go again.

    BJ Clinton was impeached for lying under oath.
    He had the good fortune of Republicans in the legislature who reigned him in.
    What,is it with all the paid advertsising for the GOP these days? You don't even try to use your brain, you just regurgitate....


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And you tried to turn it into something ugly. This is why I have so little to do with you. This is an anti-American, immoral thing to do.
    I see that your lean is Taker, or is it mastermind?

    You were the one with the absolutist statement. I merely asked a question and you responded with a personal attack simply because you had not fully thought through your first post. And you continue with personal attacks in place of recognizing that statements such as you made in this thread are fine examples of how one's words may be misused by political opponents - something we see with Republican attacks on the President's words.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Ah yes, gentlemanly debate is such an endearing quality in some folks


    You were the one who said "making a profit is moral"
    Are you serious? Making a profit is moral while killing people is not. Why do you think that because someone might kill to make a profit that profit itself is not moral? That makes no sense. Killing is not moral and profit is.

    Was your example not framed in that way? If not, please explain how I got it wrong.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Obama's words were taken out of context. The same has been done to Romney many times during this campaign season. More to come. It's a part of the campaigning process and has been since the first American election campaign. Campaign staff look for anything they can do this with, and they know their diehard followers will carry the ball and keep it in the news. Hell, it's what created HuffPro and Drudge, stuff taken out of context by the opposition, framed to be something it's not.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This is the great error of socialism and near-socialist governments. They always need more and more and more of our money. Ane eventually they run out. The society collapses.
    Not so. By your measure we here in Canada are extreme socialists. But, we manage to control the size of our government, provide a strong social safety net, and rank up near the top of the list in quality of life, quality of opportunity, best placed to do business, etc. And we have single payer healthcare AND strictly enforced financial regulations that helped us avoid the worst of your financial calamities. Americans absolutely gag at the total tax burden on canadians (tax freedom day is mid june)but to the majority of us, it simply is what it is.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Not so. By your measure we here in Canada are extreme socialists. But, we manage to control the size of our government, provide a strong social safety net, and rank up near the top of the list in quality of life, quality of opportunity, best placed to do business, etc. And we have single payer healthcare AND strictly enforced financial regulations that helped us avoid the worst of your financial calamities. Americans absolutely gag at the total tax burden on canadians (tax freedom day is mid june)but to the majority of us, it simply is what it is.
    You are still infintessimally small, have many times the natural resources per capita than virtually any nation in the world and are still straining on the healthcare funding. Grow some and we'll take a look at how your system handles the strain of significantly greater use.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You are still infintessimally small, have many times the natural resources per capita than virtually any nation in the world and are still straining on the healthcare funding. Grow some and we'll take a look at how your system handles the strain of significantly greater use.
    They use fewer resources per capita on health care than we do.

    In fact, Canadians spend fewer tax dollars per capita than we do on healthcare. Think about that. Not only do you pay more in taxes for health care than a Canadian does, you have to get private insurance on top of it!

    People trying to make cost arguments against UHC are hilarious.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Let's see. Money laundering or right to vote...This is NOT about campaign finance reform. I believe anybody ought to be able to contribute any amount. This is about what comes after...and before. Campaign bundlers created green companies that were given billions of dollars. Some, many, are already broke. But the bundlers are not millionaires and the Bamster got his contributions. That is wrong.
    You'd have to prove that money laundering did, in fact, occur based on bundled campaign contributions to Obama's presidential campaign. Without proof, all you have is speculation and wild accusations. I'd suggest you start another thread on the matter, present your evidence or at the very least plead your case there. Otherwise, let's not try to deflect and hijack the thread.

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