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Thread: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Randoids are everywhere!!11!!


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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Only a matter of time before this nonsense came on. I'm surprised nobody has called Obama a Marxist Muslim yet.
    It is what the one term Marxist believes. You describe yourself as very liberal. Of course you object to the truth as it strikes close to home.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by KopeAcetic View Post
    I keep hearing things like this come from the right and it's pretty scary. It's like a blatant and intentional misinterpretation of the words.

    I assume the democrats did the same to Bush in 2004 but I wasn't as active in politics as I am now.
    It is Obama's consistent narrative.

    Has the one term Marxist ever said, "if you built a business from scratch, if you worked long hours, put your money at risk, and despite all of the obstacles that governments put in your way you managed to succeed then you are entitled to enjoy the fruits of your success. Thank you for your dedication, your hard work, your rugged individualism, you love of capitalism and your willingness to take risk."

    Has he ever said anything even close to this?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's really the same thing as calling every lefty a communist.
    Actually its not. Perhaps you can link to all the people blacklisted and had their lives and careers ruined for being followers of Rand? But why confuse you with reality when you are laboring so mightily to stay in denial?
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually its not. But why confuse you with reality when you are laboring so mightily to stay in denial?
    Most people have never read anything by Rand. Stop chasing imaginary opponents.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Most people have never read anything by Rand. Stop chasing imaginary opponents.
    But lots here certainly have - or have been influenced by those who have.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    How would the government do this? Taxes?
    Yes. Ever more steeply progressive taxes. Trial balloons are floated periodically to see how we respond to them. Maybe a surtax on success. Or a death tax that does not wait for one's death. Given a willing populace all things are possible.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    We all have the same opportunities in relation to the US. I know I did and if there was anyone who would be least likely to succeed it is someone like me. Wrong side of the tracks etc etc. I was provided with opportunity and moved on it.
    Given your level of success do you agree with Obama that you are not entitled to (your) success? Given that "You didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen" are you willing to have the government take most of it from you? I believe his goal is to make it acceptable to the citizens for the government to take more from you since you had help along the way.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The meaning IMO is that a person has to show up for life and apply for a job and work hard to achieve. The opportunities are there we just have to find them.
    That sure as hell isn't what Obama meant. He constantly harps about giving people oppurtunity, as if the oppurtunity is controlled by someone, or something.

    No doubt, he wants the government be in control of of who succeeds and who doesn't. Mostly, who doesn't, IMO.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    There are TWO things wrong with your statement in bold:

    1) As free citizens, we have a right to support whatever candidate we choose. And in so doing, we make volunteer donations to said political candidate and/or campaign and/or party affiliation we so choose. That is enshrined in our Constitution as a voting right.

    2) How soon we forget about SuperPACs.
    Does this mean you support the government giving billions of dollars to Obama campaign bundlers? Crony capitalism is not capitalism. And money laundering, even when done using the federal government to take dollars from one group, taxpayers, to give to another group, Friends of BHO, in order to enrich the Friends who in turn give the Democratic Party Machine contributions, is still wrong.

    Obama picking losers. Here is the video:


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