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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Honestly, what is with you and Ayn Rand?
    We don't have any Randoids. I'm not convinced they even exist, in any significant number. Ghostly strawmen. It's like someone is stuck in highschool.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Considering how many Republicans in the primaries were willing to vote for "not Romney," the gymnastics they're going through now to declare that he will "save us from certain destruction" are kind of fun to watch.

    We've had 2 straight failures in the White House. If Republicans have their way, they want to make it 3.
    Are you happy with the second Carter term? I am not. We need a Reagan but he died. So Romney will just have to do the best he can.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Honestly, what is with you and Ayn Rand?
    Are you really, actually, truly, sincerely pretending that you are not aware, informed, or up on the fact that lots of right libertarians started out as Randroids and read her nonsense?

    Is that what you want us to believe?

    If that is what you are selling, I suspect you will get no customers.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We don't have any Randoids. I'm not convinced they even exist, in any significant number. Ghostly strawmen. It's like someone is stuck in highschool.

    yeah,,,, sure..... whatever .... like I made up both of those websites and wrote that stuff myself.

    Look like you are borrowing a page from the rules of Fight Club.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    You are comparing apples to oranges. The purpose of a business is to make money, and anything it can do towards that goal is amoral because the objective is amoral.

    By contrast, the purpose of our government is to serve our needs. The failure to do so is immoral. You cannot look at a profit & loss statement for a government and conclude it was successful or not, as this is not the yardstick.
    Do you believe that earning a profit is amoral?

    Awesome. In my opinion there is very little that is more moral than earning profits.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    yeah,,,, sure..... whatever .... like I made up both of those websites and wrote that stuff myself. :roll::):roll:

    Look like you are borrowing a page from the rules of Fight Club.
    I've never seen Fight Club, and I don't see any Randoids. Where are they?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are you really, actually, truly, sincerely pretending that you are not aware, informed, or up on the fact that lots of right libertarians started out as Randroids and read her nonsense?

    Is that what you want us to believe?

    If that is what you are selling, I suspect you will get no customers.
    I'm not sure where you are getting this stuff but I was never a follower of Ayn Rand. I will admit I read Atlas Shrugged but I'm not sure how you can use that against me since people of all types has read that book. In fact, I would think someone like you would have had to have read the book to have such a strong view on it and be protesting it in your sig. Frankly, I don't care about it and it means nothing to me.

    As for her, I have no opinion of her. I never bothered to care enough to even learn that much about her and I don't care if you want to blast her to your hearts content. Have fun with it really. I think it tells something about you when you bring her up in discussion for no reason like you from time to time.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is nobody who pays 35% tax rate and then follows that in the same year with another 15% on the same money.

    If there is, please show them to us.
    Straw, straw everywhere. Have you no sense of shame?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I've never seen Fight Club, and I don't see any Randoids. Where are they?
    I have honestly have never seen a Randoid or for that matter an objectivist.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I've never seen Fight Club, and I don't see any Randoids. Where are they?
    Apparently you did not read the links I provided. Rest assured that if you just go back a bit they are there for your education and illumination.
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