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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    I do not understand why the right is so semantically challenged. This is another attempt at one of those "you didn't build that" out of context bumperstickers the right is so fond of.

    He said a little more than that:

    "This country doesn’t just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top. It succeeds when the middle class gets bigger. Our economy doesn’t grow from the top down -- it grows from the middle out. We don’t believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country," said Obama. "But we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

    Please explain what is wrong with what he actually said above?
    To summarize the collective feigned outrage by conservatives in this thread:

    Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion I gain Strength. Through Strength I gain Power. Through Power I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    I do not understand why the right is so semantically challenged. This is another attempt at one of those "you didn't build that" out of context bumperstickers the right is so fond of.

    He said a little more than that:

    "This country doesn’t just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top. It succeeds when the middle class gets bigger. Our economy doesn’t grow from the top down -- it grows from the middle out. We don’t believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country," said Obama. "But we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

    Please explain what is wrong with what he actually said above?
    It was a bold-face lie to win your support and he succeeded once again. Congrats.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Horsemen View Post
    Then you took his rotten bait hook, line and sinker. because he meant none of it.
    I am living proof that this is a truism. See my earlier post....http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060990809

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    To summarize the collective feigned outrage by conservatives in this thread:

    Photos won't do it any more. Try harder next time.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Maybe if he spoke in broader terms and set goals not specifics the right would like him.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    This is actually what Obama does best....

    obama brew.jpg

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Photos won't do it any more. Try harder next time.
    Hey, your weak arguments don't give me much to work with. Here, I'll act like you have the basic skills required to understand what it is you're reading and ask you a few simple questions:

    Do you believe you're entitled to success?

    If so, by way of which amendment? Law? Natural right? You're more than welcome to demonstrate to ANYBODY in this thread how you are entitled to success.
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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    I do not understand why the right is so semantically challenged. This is another attempt at one of those "you didn't build that" out of context bumperstickers the right is so fond of.

    He said a little more than that:

    "This country doesn’t just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top. It succeeds when the middle class gets bigger. Our economy doesn’t grow from the top down -- it grows from the middle out. We don’t believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country," said Obama. "But we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

    Please explain what is wrong with what he actually said above?
    I don't have a problem with the "entitled to success" part...I have a problem with the "fair share" part.

    Exactly what is their fair share? Who decides? And what happens if I don't do what Obama considers my "fair share"?
    TANSTAAFL

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    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Maybe if he spoke in broader terms and set goals not specifics the right would like him.
    Or maybe if he didnt:

    1. Lie
    2. Lie on top of Lies
    3. Use a Teleprompter (makes him look rehearsed)
    4. Did I mention Lying?

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Horsemen View Post
    I don't even think Obamabots follow politics. I think they are all like the Obamaphone lady, IGNORANT.

    youtube "Obamaphone" for a awesome laugh at utter stupidity and ignorance of Obamabots. I would post the link but the goons might ban me again.
    Yeah if not for Reagan she wouldn't have her free phone.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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