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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    I'm not sure how my ID appears in Pinkie's quote as the author?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Relax Mya. You understood the one term Marxist. He does not believe you are entitled to your success because you didn't make it happen. He believes that the government, not you, is entitled to whatever you make of the opportunities you take advantage of.
    I keep hearing things like this come from the right and it's pretty scary. It's like a blatant and intentional misinterpretation of the words.

    I assume the democrats did the same to Bush in 2004 but I wasn't as active in politics as I am now.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You forgot Muslim. Don't ever forget Muslim.
    He did, but you didn't. Guess what that means?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    He did, but you didn't. Guess what that means?
    He's slacking on his birther rhetoric? Don't use logic again joko. It's really bad for you. Last time you claimed that using Republican rhetoric to support a Libertarian ideal advocated by a Democrat was partisan. Good thing you never came back to defend that serious gap in logic.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So what you're arguing is that some people aren't paying their fair share in order to fund these programs?
    Not at all, but I can see why you would think that. In reality, I'm against the idea of calling a service that takes money to exist anything more than a service that must be earned. I'm just pointing out that it takes money from other people to provide people with things they can't afford on their own with that series of posts to you and such a right does not exist.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Not at all, but I see why you would think that. In reality, I'm against this very idea of calling a service that takes money to exist anything more than a service that must be earned. I'm just pointing out that it takes money from other people to provide people with things they can't afford on their own with that series of posts to you.
    Good stuff. Too bad most of us realize that there is a net gain from having a well educated populace at the rather small expense of taxation.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I expect people to complete THEIR OWN THOUGHTS in THEIR OWN POSTS with THEIR OWN WORDS.

    But okay - I will fill in the blank for you to complete the thought:

    the money that is taxed is earned by people fortunate enough to live in the USA and enjoy the fruits and benefits of the greatest nation on the face of the earth.

    We make a great team Henrin.
    Fortunate enough? So basically your justification for using people for others benefits and calling it something people are entitled to is because these people that are being used live in what you call the greatest nation on earth? Ok then.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Good stuff. Too bad most of us realize that there is a net gain from having a well educated populace at the rather small expense of taxation.
    Well then it would appear to me that you guys have plenty of people to work with to reach your goals. I frankly think there is better ways to go about this goal than give it to the government.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it isn't semantics at all. When people say it's semantics they mean that people are using different words to mean the same thing. That is not at all the case with "entitled" versus "earned". Entitled means that you have it coming to you whether or not you earned it.
    I agree that the words have different meanings. But it seemed meaningful that Mya didn't seem to think that there's a difference between the words.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I did not take that as Equal Opportunity I took it as every America has an opportunity to take advantage of what this country has to offer. "We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."
    All we need to do is and in social justice and his thought is complete. His argument is that not everybody gets a fair shot. We are not all tall, dark and handsome or well-built, comely and attractive. We do not have the same IQ. We do not all make good decisions.

    Everybody does their fair share? What does that mean? To the one term Marxist it means that some should pay the way for the rest.

    Everybody is playing by the same rules...he is a liar, of course, what rules did his campaign contributors play by? He used the taxpayer to enrich his contribution bundlers at our expense.

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