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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Whatever he may have done was to make a profit, which is not the goal of government, thank God.
    Agreed. And profit in the private sector is a good thing, as it means that you have added value to the lives of others.

    Government's goal is to come closer to breaking even, while performing a few basic necessary functions as efficiently as it can manage. Unfortunately, currently our government wants to help run our economy - which is not it's role or its' proper goal, any more than making a profit is. And so we need someone who knows how to stop government from screwing that up, while bringing us closer to getting out of the red.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're stretching. She's not benefiting from my success by receiving an education. She's entitled to an education from the day she's born just like every child. It's what she does with that education that she's not entitled to. In other words, what she doesn't have and the point which you fail to grasp is birthright success. Which is what Obama stated in his quote. 4th page you seem to fail at understanding this small fact.
    How is she "entitled" to an education with the use of your income? How is one entitled to a service anyway?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Agreed. And profit in the private sector is a good thing, as it means that you have added value to the lives of others.

    Government's goal is to come closer to breaking even, while performing a few basic necessary functions as efficiently as it can manage. Unfortunately, currently our government wants to help run our economy - which is not it's role or its' proper goal, any more than making a profit is. And so we need someone who knows how to stop government from screwing that up, while bringing us closer to getting out of the red.
    I'm not sure what I believe government's role in running our economy should be, cpwill. However, both candidates say they will tinker with the interest rates on T-bills, etc.

    I agree 100% with your description of the goal of government.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How is she "entitled" to an education with the use of your income? How is one entitled to a service anyway?
    By the fact that it is only through education that you can be guaranteed an opportunity at achieving success.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    By the fact that it is only through education that you can be guaranteed an opportunity at achieving success.
    So basically what you saying that in order to ensure opportunity we must entitle them to the fruits of others labor.

    Yeah, that doesn't really work.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So basically what you saying that in order to ensure opportunity we must entitle them to the fruits of others labor.

    Yeah, that doesn't really work.
    that is patently absurd and a direct contradiction of history and reality. We have been providing public education for the last century and a half for the American people and it is paid for with taxation.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    [COLOR="#cc0066"]I'm not sure what I believe government's role in running our economy should be, cpwill. However, both candidates say they will tinker with the interest rates on T-bills, etc.
    well that's interesting. where do you see that?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that is patently absurd and a direct contradiction of history and reality. We have been providing public education for the last century and a half for the American people and it is paid for with taxation.
    The money that is taxed is earned by ______.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that is patently absurd and a direct contradiction of history and reality. We have been providing public education for the last century and a half for the American people and it is paid for with taxation.
    which does not change the nature of the equation involved. There are neither free lunches, nor free education to be had in the real world.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So if the "fair share" has already been determined, what is he rabbiting on about?
    This is it in a nutshell. "Obama has blasted Romney's tax plan for disproportionately benefiting the wealthy. The report by the centrist Tax Policy Center found that Romney's tax cuts would boost after-tax income by an average of 4.1 percent for those earning more than $1 million a year, while reducing by an average of 1.2 percent the after-tax income of individuals earning less than $200,000."

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