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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    But if he is he should communicate his points with more clarity.
    I don't really think Obama has been clear about all that much lately - it really is hard to unravel what he is trying to say.

    What he said was this: "We don’t believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country," said Obama. "But we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

    I've heard a lot of "I believe this, but" or "We don't believe this, but" come out of his mouth lately.... Equal opportunity? Sure - but NOT a guarantee of equality of outcome.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Horsemen View Post
    But he's not. He's an exposed fraud. Semantics remember?

    He is a total fraud, I agree.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    He is a total fraud, I agree.
    From day...one..

    And it really urks me that the Obamabots in America don't see thru this guy. or maybe they do and dont' want to come off their arrongant perch of ignorance.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Uh no, you can't read a statement and jumped to a flawed conclusion. Actually, that would be giving you too much credit. You deliberately misrepresented a statement to validate your flawed conclusion.

    Who made the claim that anyone was entitled to success? Who is he debating against?

    Poor Obama is now trying to continue the debate after the game is over and everyone has gone home.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Horsemen View Post
    From day...one..

    And it really urks me that the Obamabots in America don't see thru this guy. or maybe they do and dont' want to come off their arrongant perch of ignorance.
    It seems they are putting their political party ahead of their country.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems they are putting their political party ahead of their country.
    I don't even think Obamabots follow politics. I think they are all like the Obamaphone lady, IGNORANT.

    youtube "Obamaphone" for a awesome laugh at utter stupidity and ignorance of Obamabots. I would post the link but the goons might ban me again.

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    I don't really think Obama has been clear about all that much lately - it really is hard to unravel what he is trying to say.

    What he said was this: "We don’t believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country," said Obama. "But we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

    I've heard a lot of "I believe this, but" or "We don't believe this, but" come out of his mouth lately.... Equal opportunity? Sure - but NOT a guarantee of equality of outcome.
    I did not take that as Equal Opportunity I took it as every America has an opportunity to take advantage of what this country has to offer. "We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who made the claim that anyone was entitled to success? Who is he debating against?

    Poor Obama is now trying to continue the debate after the game is over and everyone has gone home.
    Considering the uproar from conservatives over stating that you are NOT entitled to success, one would think you're arguing that you are in fact entitled to it. Do you believe you're entitled to success? NO? Why complain about what Obama is saying then? Come on Grant.
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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    For a President to say that nobody is is entitled to success in the USA?

    That's plain wrong.
    I do not understand why the right is so semantically challenged. This is another attempt at one of those "you didn't build that" out of context bumperstickers the right is so fond of.

    He said a little more than that:

    "This country doesnít just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top. It succeeds when the middle class gets bigger. Our economy doesnít grow from the top down -- it grows from the middle out. We donít believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country," said Obama. "But we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

    Please explain what is wrong with what he actually said above?
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    re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I did not take that as Equal Opportunity I took it as every America has an opportunity to take advantage of what this country has to offer. "We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."
    Then you took his rotten bait hook, line and sinker. because he meant none of it.

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