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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Daughter already goes to a public school in St Maarten. - I don't like privates schools. And don't have any Ivy league connections I could count on for a ride into Yale. Get a job at 15 like my wife and I did if you want your own money. The rest of your post? Don't care for it. Same old collage of nonsensical yelling only you seem to understand.
    So you ARE going to turn her out at 18 and make her make her own way...right? Oh...believe me...I dig the work at 15 thing. If thats when you started earning, Ive got you beat by about 7 years. I understand hard work. Now...do REALLY want to pretend your daughter is NOT going to benefit from your success? You REALLY want to pretend she isnt going to be 'entitled'

    And if you DONT give her that advantage born by your hardwork, that makes you a reprehensible father and shame on you. Tough being a young money millionaire and staying connected to those slave roots isnt it? Why...you help your child get ahead in life by hard work...people might just call you a Tom...a porch monkey...and...whats that other word you have used...a house nigga? Fight the power, young money...you stand strong, keep working hard and pass on that success to your child. Change the world.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There is indeed a capital gains rate. There is also a corporate rate on the same money. If you pay 35% and then you pay 15%, what have you paid?
    There is nobody who pays 35% tax rate and then follows that in the same year with another 15% on the same money.

    If there is, please show them to us.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So you ARE going to turn her out at 18 and make her make her own way...right? Oh...believe me...I dig the work at 15 thing. If thats when you started earning, Ive got you beat by about 7 years. I understand hard work. Now...do REALLY want to pretend your daughter is NOT going to benefit from your success? You REALLY want to pretend she isnt going to be 'entitled'
    Entitled to what? Success? No. She's not. She's entitled to an education, medicine if she's sick, the occasional hissy fit etc. But entitled to success? No. She has to work for it just like everyone else.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Entitled to what? Success? No. She's not. She's entitled to being able to receive an education, medicine if she's sick, etc. But entitled to success? No. She has to work for it just like everyone else.
    Just like...say...Romney. Or Obamas kids. Or ANYONE that benefits from the success of their hard working elders.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    This is an entirely different argument from "vote for the businessman who grows jobs".

    It's also not how I see Romney's record, but it's less preposterous than Grant's claim.

    What claim was that?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Just like...say...Romney. Or Obamas kids. Or ANYONE that benefits from the success of their hard working elders.
    You're stretching. She's not benefiting from my success by receiving an education. She's entitled to an education from the day she's born just like every child. It's what she does with that education that she's not entitled to. In other words, what she doesn't have and the point which you fail to grasp is birthright success. Which is what Obama stated in his quote. 4th page you seem to fail at understanding this small fact.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're stretching. She's not benefiting from my success by receiving an education. She's entitled to an education from the day she's born. What she doesn't have and the point which you fail to grasp is birthright success. Which is what Obama stated in his quote. 4th page you seem to fail at understanding this small fact.
    Why thats just horse****, young money. She is 'entitled. She is a member of the 'entitled' class that benefits from successful parents. She will have education opportunities many wont have. She will have parental backing and support that many wont have. She will benefit from your understanding of hard work and success. Like Mitt Romney, like the children of other wealthy parents, your child is 'entitled' and she will have an advantage over others her age. Sure...she has to work hard. Props to you for that. That makes you...just like Romneys daddy.

    Oh...we ABSOLUTELY believe in entitlement. You LIVE it. And well done!

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Show us an example of a company Mitt Romney saved. Show us the ideas/programs he himself provided/implemented in order to save the company. Your claim is only as valid as the information which supports it. So let's take Staples. How did Romney save Staples?
    Do you want details as requested in order to say he and Bain saved companies, but continue the drivel about Bain killing jobs without putting forth the same empirical data you request of others?
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    She's entitled to an education from the day she's born just like every child.
    Up to what level?
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm confused. The Republican Party has been saying this for a while now, and it was true then.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    A rightist who doesn't know the difference between 'entitlement' and 'opportunity'. Who'da thunk?
    Indeed, "entitlement" is being overlooked in the sentence. I thought this was the argument of conservatives and Republicans. Democrats want to ensure everyone has the opportunity for success. So I don't see why the hub bub about that sentence since it demonstrates common ground.

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