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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Obama believes you aren't entitled to success but you are entitled to other people's money. What a guy.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Put it another way. What he is saying to everyone is:

    There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
    Then why has he become known as the "Food Stamp President"?

    He not only has increased the number of food stamp recipients by several millions, the Department of Agriculture has spend thousands inviting more people to take advantage of these free lunches.

    Of course someone else is paying for these generous programs, and it's those who are lucky enough to have a job.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    doe the opposition feel that i'm entitled to success?

    if so, i'll take mine in the form of a medium sized regional biotech contract lab, complete with existing and stable contracts with pharmaceutical R&D. i'm a skilled micro / molecular biologist, and the only thing stopping me from starting my lab is startup funds and someone to help me navigate the waters on the business end. how do i apply for my entitlement?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then why has he become known as the "Food Stamp President"?

    He not only has increased the number of food stamp recipients by several millions, the Department of Agriculture has spend thousands inviting more people to take advantage of these free lunches.

    Of course someone else is paying for these generous programs, and it's those who are lucky enough to have a job.
    Funny, I thought George W. Bush was the food stamp president. I mean, you do realize that the number of food stamp recipients increased every year of his presidency save one, right? You were aware that the number of food stamp recipients went up by about 10 million during Bush's two terms, right?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The problem with the first is that you have to actually show that he doesn't have contempt for the rich and that is a tall order with nothing really to use for ingredients. This is one of the problems liberals and democrats have in general. They generally treat the rich like the enemy of the state and whatever they do is not good enough. If they don't hire enough people then they are being greedy. If they move their plant then they are out to hurt people. If they have to cut wages to avoid going under they want everyone to work for two dollars a day. I could list examples all day long but the point is this behavior only says one thing, I hate the successful. The impression that successful are left with is that they are the enemy and that their property and their lives are nothing more than the property of the state and all they did to get it is meaningless. When they are paying more taxes than everyone else by large margin and it never seems to be enough and the liberals are always trying to figure out how to put in place a higher rate or a new tax here or there that only affects the successful the impression is only worsened. Worse yet, is that over the years the definition of successful has been getting looser and looser and more and more people are falling under it. In the days that liberals like to look back and smile at the group they used for their interests was much smaller, but these days people that are making just over 100 thousand feel like victims to their policies and to their hate which was not the case all those years ago. This is not easy for liberals or Obama to fight back on after decades on decades of building it up and at this point I don't think you can say they have done a wonderful job at not giving off the impression that they do NOT like the successful. I think if you are really here to fight back on that you will have an impossible task in front of you.

    As for the second, he is a planned economy socialist.

    Btw, I never said I saw what he said here in any other way than you. I'm just posting on why he should avoid such comments in the future.
    One of the most over rated qualities in this latest election is that the President must be 'likeable' and 'relate to the people'. If someone is capable of leading the world's only superpower (so far), turning around the economy, cleaning up the foreign policy mess, I don't think it necessary to 'relate to the people'. That is pandering.

    The electorate should vote for the best person for the job and not concern themselves whether he might be the ideal person to have a beer with.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then why has he become known as the "Food Stamp President"?

    He not only has increased the number of food stamp recipients by several millions, the Department of Agriculture has spend thousands inviting more people to take advantage of these free lunches.

    Of course someone else is paying for these generous programs, and it's those who are lucky enough to have a job.
    Ya, the recession has had nothing to do with this.

    *Head shaking*

    Do you people hear yourselves?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    shrug...

    I don't know. That's why I'm asking and that's why I'm more concerned about that part of his statement than the "We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country" part that everyone is going on about.
    Obama qualified this statement with the second part of the sentence. It has to be read together otherwise there will be a mass of confusion. Entitlement is a matter of law or some other means where someone declares they are due success and that is not the case in this situation.

    You just cannot separate that which is grammatically connected as glean the proper meaning of the statement. "We donít believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country, but we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibility is rewarded, and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules."

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Ya, the recession has had nothing to do with this.

    *Head shaking*

    Do you people hear yourselves?
    No they just want to keeping talking and talking with misinformed opinions and lack of understanding regarding these issues.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Funny, I thought George W. Bush was the food stamp president.
    Seems you were wrong.
    I mean, you do realize that the number of food stamp recipients increased every year of his presidency save one, right? You were aware that the number of food stamp recipients went up by about 10 million during Bush's two terms, right?
    I'll accept your numbers that food stamp use increased by 10 million during the eight years of the Bush Presidency but they have increased by 16 million during the four years of the Obama Presidency bringing the numbers up to 47 millions. Adding a further insult to the American taxpayer, his administration has been advertising for more people to get involved in applying for their own food stamps.

    Certainly this program, and many others, serve to promote the idea that there is such a thing as a free lunch and everyone should take advantage of it.

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