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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes, understandable. There are always athiests that are quite willing to blame the whole of <insert religion here (or all)> for the idiotic things that fanatics do. Is it really any wonder that eventually someone would start pointing out the idiotic things that some idiotic athiest did also?

    If one side does it then you really should expect the other side to do it the moment they get a chance to do it also. Doesn't mean that either side is right in doing it of course. But it is understandable that it happens.
    Wait, wait - aren't you the guy who posted this?

    as long as you've got people like the above video's that I posted show then Islamic religion will bear the standard of "most violent religions on Earth". Now before you try and say something about that I want you to do a google search with those exact words. "most violent religions on Earth" You will come up with 2,290,000 search results. Now skim or read through the first 10 that come up. What is being talked about? What religion is in every single one of those links?

    It's not pretty but that is how the entire world views Islam. It's up to people like you to change that view point. It's up to people like you to stop all these terrorist organizations that claim Islam as their motivating factor.
    The guy arguing that Muslims should do something about violence in religion because of how the world projects the actions of a select few unto them, is now arguing that religion shouldn't have the label of violent project unto them because of the actions of a select few. Sorry champ, how about you put yourself on the same standards you ask of Muslims and start doing something about religion as an agent of violence?
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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Wait, wait - aren't you the guy who posted this?



    The guy arguing that Muslims should do something about violence in religion because of how the world projects the actions of a select few unto them, is now arguing that religion shouldn't have the label of violent project unto them because of the actions of a select few. Sorry champ, how about you put yourself on the same standards you ask of Muslims and start doing something about religion as an agent of violence?
    Yep, I recall that. Man you had to dig deep for that didn't you? That was what? A year ago that I said that or so?

    Mind linking to it? (makes me curious as to why you didn't) I would like a bit of context as I don't recall the whole conversation, or even the thread.

    PS: I figured you should also know that I am not a part of any particular organized religion. I think that all organized religions are BS.
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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Oh look, a silly excuse for a blanket attack on atheists because of some random dude's actions. I'm sure you're just as quick to condemn all Christians when one of them bombs an abortion clinic or shoots a doctor.

    For that matter, how do you even know that he doesn't believe in God, or what his motives were? The article you cited doesn't seem to indicate that.
    To a certain degree you are right.But in this country instead of atheist bombing stuff they file lawsuits to remove crosses from war memorials, to remove ten command commandment plaques and city seals, and to remove lines from the pledge of allegiance or to try to remove a national motto from our money.
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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    To a certain degree you are right.But in this country instead of atheist bombing stuff they file lawsuits to remove crosses from war memorials, to remove ten command commandment plaques and city seals, and to remove lines from the pledge of allegiance or to try to remove a national motto from our money.
    Because obviously challenging the constitutionality of laws you don't like is pretty much the same thing as bombing a church.
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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Amazing how people who don't believe in God seem to have the biggest grudges against God.

    Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami churches - FOX23 News
    A man is arrested after police uncover a plot to bomb 48 churches in Miami.

    Gregory Arthur Weiler II, of Illinois, was arrested after Miami police found a military bag containing 50 brown glass bottles with duct tape and a piece of cloth in a dumpster outside the Legacy Inn and Suites Thursday morning.


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    According to court papers, officers found a written journal entry stating "self promote for the next 4 years while beginning list of goals written out in Oklahoma having to do with destroying and removing church buildings from U.S. a tiny bit at a time - setting foundation for the years to follow."
    Any word yet on whether he was just protesting a youtube video?

    If so, they should find the person who made that video.

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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Not saying that I agree with the OP in that particular regard but......turn about IS fair play after all. Lord knows I've seen lots of athiests blame the whole of Christianity, Islam etc etc for the bat**** crazy things that people do in the name of their religion.

    PS: Its kind of obvious that the guy is an athiest btw. I don't know of anyone of religious background that wants to get rid of all the churches in this country....
    Really? Maybe not all the churches but I've met plenty of evangelicals in the Midwest who would gladly bomb every Catholic church off the face of the Earth if they thought they could get away with it. Sometimes even different Protestant denominations don't care for each other very much.

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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    To a certain degree you are right.But in this country instead of atheist bombing stuff they file lawsuits to remove crosses from war memorials, to remove ten command commandment plaques and city seals, and to remove lines from the pledge of allegiance or to try to remove a national motto from our money.
    I give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know the line in question of the Pledge of Allegiance wasn't in the original.

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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki97 View Post
    Really? Maybe not all the churches but I've met plenty of evangelicals in the Midwest who would gladly bomb every Catholic church off the face of the Earth if they thought they could get away with it. Sometimes even different Protestant denominations don't care for each other very much.
    You missed my key words...."all the churches". Naturally those evangelicals would not bomb their own.
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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You missed my key words...."all the churches". Naturally those evangelicals would not bomb their own.
    Is there any indication this man intended to bomb non Christian churches? If there isn't his plan doesn't qualify either. What is it with the right and this hiding behind literal definitions lately?

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    Re: Man arrested for plot to bomb Miami (Oklahoma) churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki97 View Post
    Is there any indication this man intended to bomb non Christian churches? If there isn't his plan doesn't qualify either. What is it with the right and this hiding behind literal definitions lately?
    Think you missed part of the OP...or didn't read it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
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    According to court papers, officers found a written journal entry stating "self promote for the next 4 years while beginning list of goals written out in Oklahoma having to do with destroying and removing church buildings from U.S. a tiny bit at a time - setting foundation for the years to follow."
    There was apparently no distinction beyond that of "chruch buildings". Its prolly safe to assume that he wanted them all gone.

    You should read the article linked in the OP also. ....

    ""That's crazy,” said Gayle Edmondson. “It seems like he would want to blow up every church in town.""
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