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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah. I'll bet at this point you don't even know the difference between the copious absurdities you invented and attributed to me, and what I actually did say, in order for you to call me wrong.

    Look, this game has been played long before you got here and will continue long after you flame out. Your passing will be as little-noticed as a gnat in a gymnasium. Your buzzing no longer holds my interest.
    Well, thank you for your sage words of wisdom old vet. Personally, if I'd been doing this as long as you have and still weren't any better at it, I'd find another way to spend my free time.

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki97 View Post
    Not really, you are just having a comprehension problem. The Hitler example is meant to show that students in school do NOT have the same freedom of speech rights that adults do. If the school determined all political apparel was disruptive, they could prohibit it. The example of the young woman was merely to illustrate the old principle that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. If the girl ends up getting beaten up over this incident, as she claims she is fearful will happen, I think it outweighs the questionable gain of wearing a shirt parroting her parents views in an environment where it is unlikely she swayed anyone's voting preference.

    Hitler and the images conjured by Hitler are in no way parallel with any contemporary candidate for president.

    A bikini compared to a T-Shirt and a bad neighborhood at 3:00 am compared to a high school are not equivalent.

    Anything exaggerated is diminished.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki97 View Post
    If the teacher has that strong of political views and the poor judgment to do what she did, you don't think she has given an indication of those views prior to this incident? I guess it would never occur to you to question the wisdom of the parents allowing their child to wear the shirt into an environment where it might have led to physical altercations with other students? Since neither the girl nor her fellow students can vote, it seems somewhat provocative to begin with. My opinion is all political apparel of any sort should be banned from schools since it has no place there. My freedom of speech would allow me to wear a shirt glorifying Hitler out in public but I doubt any public school would allow it as it would be considered disruptive.
    It sounds like you are saying it was the students fault.

    Do you think it is OK for somebody to steal a car just because the keys were left in the ignition?

    Sure they owner should have taken his keys, but do you give the thief a pass because the owner did leave the keys?

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    I don't know of any schools that say you're not allowed to express your political ideology. Why should she have to think about it beforehand?
    Why would a student be banned from expressing their political ideology if the teacher is allowed to do it?

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Although they've met with school officials about the incident, neither Samantha nor her father are satisfied. "The teacher told us it was a joke. That she jokes around with students. There's nothing funny about what she did."
    The school district confirmed to CNBC that an incident occurred and it is conducting an investigation to determine whether disciplinary action is necessary.

    I would say that those two highlighted statements would confirm the girl isn't lying..... but hey I understand the need for liberals to come to the defense of another liberal ... no matter what was done

    No one would ever say that CNBC was a conservative station , yet that is the what was used as a source.
    I don't eventhink it is about being a liberal. If this was about Reid, nobody would be defending the teacher, but it is about Obama.

    He gets special treatment in most areas, he must be protected at all costs. It is getting crazy.

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by helix2048 View Post
    I admit, maybe my comment was harsh. I just think people get their panties in a bunch over the dumbest things that happen in school. Maybe it's only me that thinks that way. Paddling was the norm when I was in school. I had a teacher that was obviously racist and used to paddle an arabic kid all the time in front of the class. Nothing ever happened to that teacher, most likely because the kids father gave him permission to do so. The teacher seemed to take pleasure in it when he did it. A little too much pleasure and he should have reprimanded for this.

    My whole point is, the teacher supposedly pointed a marker at the student and made an x in gesture. How is this offensive? Why would this make someone feel like they can't go to school?

    I used to get beat up at the bus stop almost everyday on the way home from school. It didn't make me afraid to go to school, but I did stop riding the bus. Maybe I have a thicker skin than most people since I had to put up with so much crap at school. The call it bullying today, back then it was considered normal behavior in school.
    You think teachers should be able to assault students like in this case?

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the teacher should be disciplined.

    I don't care what spin you want to put on it.. I don't care what kind of conspiracy you want to attribute to the student.
    the student did absolutely nothing wrong... and was mocked and ridiculed by her teacher for it.

    I don't understand why some folks in here are trying to lay blame on he student...
    well, that's not true, I do understand, i just find it sad that partisanship gets in the way of doing/saying the right thing.

    well done, because of your support for Obama, you have just condoned the bullying of a student by here teacher... well done indeed.
    Don't forget assaulted.

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    She was a black teacher who doesn't like the racism from the republican party. Not to be condoned, but if you harbor hatred for minorities, why is it you should not expect this.

    Tell me, why was a high schooler wearing a pro-Romney shirt to school?
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    She was a black teacher who doesn't like the racism from the republican party. Not to be condoned, but if you harbor hatred for minorities, why is it you should not expect this.

    Tell me, why was a high schooler wearing a pro-Romney shirt to school?
    Really, that is your excuse for her?

    She is upset about invented racism so she assaults her 16 year old student.

    Is that the story you are going with?

    Are you sure you don't want to say the air was too thin and she couldn't think so therefore she wasn't responsible for her actions?

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    Re: Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Really, that is your excuse for her?

    She is upset about invented racism so she assaults her 16 year old student.

    Is that the story you are going with?

    Are you sure you don't want to say the air was too thin and she couldn't think so therefore she wasn't responsible for her actions?

    There's nothing invented in republican racism. It's in their platform

    Mitt Romney and the RNC: Stoking the racial politics of yesteryear? - The Root DC Live - The Washington Post

    . . .

    Romney attempted to appeal to what he perceives as latent xenophobia by pitting the black Democratic president against white-bread middle America and conventional Main Street. In so doing, Romney became just another cliche, playing to the Southern racial politics of yesteryear — or what we hope is a bygone era. But is it really? Romney’s hedging his bets that it’s not and that he can manipulate the electorate with the specter of race and fear.

    So, what do we get? Nuts being thrown at a black white-collar professional like she was a circus animal.

    Whether serious or in jest, Romney’s comments dovetail with his recent racialized attack ads suggesting erroneously that Obama’s political “base” is welfare recipients. According to Romney, Obama paved the way for slackers and welfare queens by taking the “work requirement” out of welfare, thereby giving away Middle America’s hard earned tax dollars.

    Interestingly enough, as with the Affordable Care Act, for which Massachusetts laid the blueprint when he was governor of that state, Romney was also one of 29 Republican governors to endorse waivers for the welfare work requirement. To now accuse a black president of pandering to welfare recipients when, in reality, the face of welfare is hardly black or brown, is an attempt to conjure up Willie Horton-style politics and fear among the majority of voters — particularly affluent and middle-class white voters. Romney’s attempt to Willie Horton-ize Obama is a weak attempt to sully a president whom many across the racial spectrum, according to polls, find highly relatable.

    . . .
    Just cuz you're a white guy is no excuse to not know the racism that exists in your party
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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