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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    I'm not relying on the regimes decency. There's a massive difference between the public gullibility of today's Iranian population and that of North Koreans a half century ago. The experiment can't be repeated, they've given too many of their public a decent education - at home and abroad.
    Gullibility has nothing to do with it. You think nKoreans just believe whatever 'cause they're a particularly gullible people?!

    With nukes, no one can stop the government from running people over with tanks, shooting questions, "purifying" Iran and such. You think the regime wants to liberalize? They chant Death to America/Israel in Parliament.

    I dunno who you think the Iranian regime is. Perhaps you didn't notice Syria, Hez and Hamas resulting from them. Perhaps the terror attacks in Iraq and around the world didn't make your radar.

    The people of Iran would become animals, property, overnight. Syria, Hez and Hamas would become much more horrible things.

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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Gullibility has nothing to do with it. You think nKoreans just believe whatever 'cause they're a particularly gullible people?!

    With nukes, no one can stop the government from running people over with tanks, shooting questions, "purifying" Iran and such. You think the regime wants to liberalize? They chant Death to America/Israel in Parliament.

    I dunno who you think the Iranian regime is. Perhaps you didn't notice Syria, Hez and Hamas resulting from them. Perhaps the terror attacks in Iraq and around the world didn't make your radar.

    The people of Iran would become animals, property, overnight. Syria, Hez and Hamas would become much more horrible things.
    Gullible genetically? No. Gullible as an acquired trait, yes they are particularly gullible.

    I'm not sure chanting death to America or Israel and funding terror means they're going to or capable of building an insulated police state. And if they need to violently suppress an uprising, they're already unlike the North Koreans who don't need to suppress any uprisings because their people are so brainwashed.

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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Gullible genetically? No. Gullible as an acquired trait, yes they are particularly gullible.

    I'm not sure chanting death to America or Israel and funding terror means they're going to or capable of building an insulated police state.
    They have an insulated police state, and Syria, Hez and Hamas totalitarians outside the state. Ever seen an Iranian here? The nukes will make it total.

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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Gullibility has nothing to do with it. You think nKoreans just believe whatever 'cause they're a particularly gullible people?!

    With nukes, no one can stop the government from running people over with tanks, shooting questions, "purifying" Iran and such. You think the regime wants to liberalize? They chant Death to America/Israel in Parliament.

    I dunno who you think the Iranian regime is. Perhaps you didn't notice Syria, Hez and Hamas resulting from them. Perhaps the terror attacks in Iraq and around the world didn't make your radar.

    The people of Iran would become animals, property, overnight. Syria, Hez and Hamas would become much more horrible things.
    From an Iranian perspective... the US supports Israel's occupation and oppression in Palestine... and continued expansion.

    You should also remember that little Lebanon has been victimized by Israel in a number of ways for 60 years... The numerous attempts to take south Lebanon and the Litani River.. not to mention being overrun with Palestinian refugees.

    Its NOT a one way street.

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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    From an Iranian perspective... the US supports Israel's occupation and oppression in Palestine... and continued expansion.

    You should also remember that little Lebanon has been victimized by Israel in a number of ways for 60 years... The numerous attempts to take south Lebanon and the Litani River.. not to mention being overrun with Palestinian refugees.

    Its NOT a one way street.
    The vast majority of Lebanon's problems are the direct result of having an Iranian terror cell in control of much of the country, including the part Israel was forced to suppress. Same goes for Palestine. We can help the people of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Iran (and Iraq and the rest of the mideast) by ending the Iranian regime's reign of terror.

    Bombing to prevent nukes while leaving the heart of terrorism intact seems rather half-assed to me.
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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The pro-democracy protests in the street are partially fueled by the desire for religious rulership. Just like in Egypt right? The people wanted democracy and with said democracy, they elected a guy whose main platform was jihad and shari'a. Way to go!
    You really don't know what you're talking about. The pro-democracy protesters in Iran are generally protesting AGAINST religious rulership, which they already have and which they dislike.
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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You really don't know what you're talking about. The pro-democracy protesters in Iran are generally protesting AGAINST religious rulership, which they already have and which they dislike.
    the pro-democracy movements in egypt were also protesting against tyranny and rulership... and they voted in office a muslim brotherhood extremist.

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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    the pro-democracy movements in egypt were also protesting against tyranny and rulership... and they voted in office a muslim brotherhood extremist.
    Sigh. Are you even aware of what the political systems in those two countries ARE? In Egypt they were protesting Hosni Mubarak - a secular dictator who suppressed religious movements. In Iran they have a theocratic dictatorship.
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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Sigh. Are you even aware of what the political systems in those two countries ARE? In Egypt they were protesting Hosni Mubarak - a secular dictator who suppressed religious movements. In Iran they have a theocratic dictatorship.
    Dude. I am all too aware of the situation in the middle east and all countries involved. I am not talking things out of my ass.

    I know that egypt was, like many other nations, a secular state. Syria is also a secular state. Libya was one too. I know that iran is an islamic republic (which is frankly a joke... to put those 2 notions together... but anyway).

    Still.

    It does not change in any way the nature of the protests. They are pro-democracy protests. Not pro-secular state protests. The iranian people protest against ahmadinejad. They are supported by the shiite clergy in this process because the shiite clergy have a beef with ahmadinejad.

    With these notions in mind, If the ahmadinejad government collapses and is replaced, as is the case in other "arab spring" influenced countries, with a religious loon, the minorities in Iran will suffer. Just like the minorities in Egypt are suffering. The religious minorities.

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    Re: Iranian Currency Collapses - Sanctions + corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    the pro-democracy movements in egypt were also protesting against tyranny and rulership... and they voted in office a muslim brotherhood extremist.
    What, as an executive, has Mohammed Morsi done that has so offended you and tarred him as an extremist? Thus far aside from some red meat about the 1993 WTC terror prisoners, he hasn't done much of anything that should excite so much animosity. He has actually governed about as best as we could hope.

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