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Turkey fires artillery at Syria

On the fly reaction: This could be used by Turkey as a push for "humanitarian zones" (BBC News - Turkey: Risk worth taking for Syria safe zones) which could potentially turn into an armed NATO intervention. Anyone remember how last year the UN mandate the clearly specified the purpose of the intervention was to protect civilians suddenly turned into an overthrowing of Gaddafi?
 
usa got what it wanted ,syrian military targets were bombed!!!!! congrats .. any country having disloyal governers can get into war for other nations'S benefits.

congrats hillary ,.....

i wish innocent american people understood these imperial tricks will be rejected by turks one day.

but first we must get rid of the other partner ,we really need another independence war,this government has been the most betrayar one which we have seen....

obama asks him to speak against syrians ,this so called muslim bigot begins to harrass teh syrians.

why didnt he do it when the syrians were supportin bloody pkk?

he just works for the westerners whom he thinks are so immoral because they are not muslim

.two faced bigot..

because he is a betrayar sunni arabic fascist and hates turkish republic.yes he is teh prime

minister ,but it is true!!!!!!!!!

if a serious war begins ,patriotic turks will use this opportunity to get rid of these two faced so called islamists .....

ı will use too.....
 
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usa got what it wanted ,syrian military targets were bombed!!!!! congrats .. any country having disloyal governers can get into war for other nations'S benefits.

congrats hillary ,.....

i wish innocent american people understood these imperial tricks will be rejected by turks one day.

but first we must get rid of the other partner ,we really need another independence war,this government has been the most betrayar one which we have seen....

obama asks him to speak against syrians ,this so called muslim bigot begins to harrass teh syrians.

why didnt he do it when the syrians were supportin bloody pkk?

he just works for the westerners whom he thinks are so immoral because they are not muslim

.two faced bigot..

because he is a betrayar sunni arabic fascist and hates turkish republic.yes he is teh prime

minister ,but it is true!!!!!!!!!

if a serious war begins ,patriotic turks will use this opportunity to get rid of these two faced so called islamists .....

ı will use too.....

What would your response to the killing of Turks have been?
 
What would your response to the killing of Turks have been?


turks have been killed for 30 years by bloody pkk....when there is a pkk fact having settled in teh northern ıraq ,.it is not a honest action to bomb teh syrians............
 
turks have been killed for 30 years by bloody pkk....when there is a pkk fact having settled in teh northern ıraq ,.it is not a honest action to bomb teh syrians............

So, how would you have handled it?
 
are we playing ask and answer??

You're not being compelled to answer. I just feel if you're going to make claims of imperial machinations you should probably provide an appropriate response from a government acting in Turkeys best interests to this incident.
 
You're not being compelled to answer. I just feel if you're going to make claims of imperial machinations you should probably provide an appropriate response from a government acting in Turkeys best interests to this incident.


i gave all my responses in my first post ,read it please ben..


usa got what it wanted ,syrian military targets were bombed!!!!! congrats .. any country having disloyal governers can get into war for other nations'S benefits.

congrats hillary ,.....

i wish innocent american people understood these imperial tricks will be rejected by turks one day.

but first we must get rid of the other partner ,we really need another independence war,this government has been the most betrayar one which we have seen....

obama asks him to speak against syrians ,this so called muslim bigot begins to harrass teh syrians.

why didnt he do it when the syrians were supportin bloody pkk?

he just works for the westerners whom he thinks are so immoral because they are not muslim

.two faced bigot..

because he is a betrayar sunni arabic fascist and hates turkish republic.yes he is teh prime

minister ,but it is true!!!!!!!!!

if a serious war begins ,patriotic turks will use this opportunity to get rid of these two faced so called islamists .....

ı will use too.....
 
i gave all my responses in my first post ,read it please ben..

If I felt I knew Turkey better than you I wouldn't ask the question. Nothing in that post addresses what you feel an appropriate response would be.
 
If I felt I knew Turkey better than you I wouldn't ask the question. Nothing in that post addresses what you feel an appropriate response would be.

ı said..turkey must take action against kurdish pkk camps in northern ıraq..soon..

ı hıoe you understand which action is not against our benefits.
 
ı said..turkey must take action against kurdish pkk camps in northern ıraq..soon..

ı hıoe you understand which action is not against our benefits.

So no response to the Syrian army killing Turks? Syria can continue to shell away?
 
So no response to the Syrian army killing Turks? Syria can continue to shell away?

if you admit you dont know much more about turkey than me ,you can believe in me.....

people are being killed here for years...if we need a war,it must be with pkk...............

who had provocated syrians was disloyal turkish government.they have the right to do that!!.
 
According to an NYT article (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?_r=1&smid=tw-share)

"It was unknown whether the mortar shells were fired by Syrian government forces or rebels fighting to topple the government of President Bashar al-Assad. The Turkish response seemed to assume that the Syrian government was responsible."

Thus, it doesn't seem that Turkey even knows who fired the mortars.
 
So no response to the Syrian army killing Turks? Syria can continue to shell away?

Syria has been dogging the Turkish border for weeks and have been told to stay away.

Turkey is in the right .. and Turkey is sheltering over 70,000 Syrian refugees.
 
I don't care what happens so long as we stay out of it.

Turkey is NATO and so are we..

Hopefully we will stay out of it. The current strategy lies with the Arab League and the GCC to get Assad to step down AND save face.. I think that's "iffy"..
 
According to an NYT article (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?_r=1&smid=tw-share)

"It was unknown whether the mortar shells were fired by Syrian government forces or rebels fighting to topple the government of President Bashar al-Assad. The Turkish response seemed to assume that the Syrian government was responsible."

Thus, it doesn't seem that Turkey even knows who fired the mortars.

Or indeed if it was deliberate. Either way its illustrative of the fact that the war will arrive on their doorstep either regardless of how they respond, the only way forward is to deal with the problem as soon as possible.
 
I don't care, it's not our problem.

You have no problem ignoring genocides and the intentional starvation of children. So it's not like anything outside the US could be our problem, to you.
 
You have no problem ignoring genocides and the intentional starvation of children. So it's not like anything outside the US could be our problem, to you.

Genocide has been happening for some time. Death and destruction as well, sometimes (often times) bolstered by our own involvement. If we just exacerbate the problems, why get involved in the first place?
 
Thus, it doesn't seem that Turkey even knows who fired the mortars.

Nonetheless, the Syrian government must be held responsible, no? Or do we now allow rogue regimes to do what they want and the host country is not liable? I guess, considering Hamas, Hez and Syria itself, that may be the case.
 
if you admit you dont know much more about turkey than me ,you can believe in me.....

people are being killed here for years...if we need a war,it must be with pkk...............

who had provocated syrians was disloyal turkish government.they have the right to do that!!.

Sorry, but that would be like trusting an ideological hack for an assessment of American policy just cos they're American. You've done little to convince you're not a hack when it comes to Turkish politics - its all evasion, non sequiters and conspiracy theories.
 
Sorry, but that would be like trusting an ideological hack for an assessment of American policy just cos they're American. You've done little to convince you're not a hack when it comes to Turkish politics - its all evasion, non sequiters and conspiracy theories.

Most of us have been following the activities of the Israeli funded PKK since the 1950s.. How about you>
 
Most of us have been following the activities of the Israeli funded PKK since the 1950s.. How about you>

I'm not that old nor do I have a time machine.

Do you too reckon the appropriate response to syrian shelling is raiding northern Iraq to kill some pkk members?
 
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