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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -George Santayana
    Afghanistan is much better off than it was. So is Iraq.

    Look what happened to Japan after we nuked them. Should we use that model of history with Iran?

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

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    Even war crimes of the same "type" are not all the same. There's a big difference between killing 20 civilians (and who knows what "faction" actually did that) and killing thousands with the country's military. If you think those two things are the same, oh well.
    I don't think those two things are the same. I am just acknowledging that they are war crimes. However, my non-support for the rebs (I also do not support the regime) comes not only from that, but also from the other evidence I have presented in this thread.
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    past always repeats itself if you dont learn any lesson
    Let's do Iran like Japan then?

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Afghanistan is much better off than it was. So is Iraq.

    Look what happened to Japan after we nuked them. Should we use that model of history with Iran?
    maybe ,but then you may not have the right to accuse turkey of violating human rights

    ı understand you are sincere and you believe what you way .but us foreing policy is not as you think sweety

    note:japan is dependent on usa militarily politically which lets them be number in high technology ,and it is not democracy swetty
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Afghanistan is much better off than it was. So is Iraq.

    Look what happened to Japan after we nuked them. Should we use that model of history with Iran?
    Really? It is? Tell that to the people of Afghanistan who want us the hell out of their country.

    The President wants us to leave early (Afghan President Wants U.S. Troops To Leave Early) and Americans also want out of that quagmire (Poll: 69% of Americans want US out of Afghanistan | GlobalPost)
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I am just acknowledging that they are war crimes.
    That's BS. You use the false equivalency of those things to defend your abandonment of a democratic movement that is being slaughtered by their own military. It is like no amount of human suffering could convince you to become involved, not even when the oppressed are actively fighting and dying in the streets.

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

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    Really? It is? Tell that to the people of Afghanistan who want us the hell out of their country.
    Oh, spare me. You're going to use the Taliban to defend your position? The president of Afghan does not want all US personel out.

    And what about Japan? If we nuke Iran history will repeat itself?

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I am not saying that there is no moral difference, I am saying that a war crime is a war crime no matter who commits it. In addition to this, the situation is quite different from the current situation in Syria, with the Syrian rebels being backed by AQ.
    Indeed but clearly the difference would have to be pretty small if you believe neither is preferable, no? . And as I said before i fail to see how someone objectionable getting on the band wagon illegitimises everyone else in the movement.

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's BS. You use the false equivalency of those things to defend your abandonment of a democratic movement that is being slaughtered by their own military. It is like no amount of human suffering could convince you to become involved, not even when the oppressed are actively fighting and dying in the streets.
    Please, take the time to look at the other evidence I have presented in this thread. That also plays into why I don't support the rebels or the regime. It is not a democratic movement.
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's BS. You use the false equivalency of those things to defend your abandonment of a democratic movement that is being slaughtered by their own military. It is like no amount of human suffering could convince you to become involved, not even when the oppressed are actively fighting and dying in the streets.
    I could say the same about Bahrain

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