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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's something they are fighting for, and being slaughtered in the street for, and having their families killed for... but you're not willing to help. Fine.
    Remember us helping the rebels in Afghanistan just a couple of decades ago? How'd that all work out for us, and for them?
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well the French resistance murdered civilians and were supported by Britain and America (neither of which had particularly noble motivations for entering the war and both of which committed war crimes) do you not think there was a moral different between the two sides despite that? surely in both instances what is important is why they are fighting rather then how they conduct themselves when doing so (you could say the same about Israel and Palestine).

    Lastly most of the flak that the FSA has got regarding war crimes relates to killing prisoners, as regrettable as this is one has to ask where they are supposed to open a POW camp.

    I am not saying that there is no moral difference, I am saying that a war crime is a war crime no matter who commits it. In addition to this, the situation is quite different from the current situation in Syria, with the Syrian rebels being backed by AQ.
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

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    Remember us helping the rebels in Afghanistan just a couple of decades ago? How'd that all work out for us, and for them?
    Live in the now.

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I am not saying that there is no moral difference, I am saying that a war crime is a war crime no matter who commits it.
    Not all war crimes are the same.

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Not all war crimes are the same.
    Yeah, you can have different types of war crimes. Doesn't mean that they aren't war crimes
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I don't want to be irritating but how do you know you are helping the right side?
    Just like Iraq. When Syria goes back to a regime that bombs its own people with its airforce, I'll worry about losing progress.

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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Live in the now.
    Learn some lessons from history.
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Live in the now.
    past always repeats itself if you dont learn any lesson
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Live in the now.
    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -George Santayana
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    Re: Turkey fires artillery at Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Yeah, you can have different types of war crimes. Doesn't mean that they aren't war crimes
    Even war crimes of the same "type" are not all the same. There's a big difference between killing 20 civilians (and who knows what "faction" actually did that) and killing thousands with the country's military (openly and officially). If you think those two things are the same, oh well.

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