Homeland Security 'fusion' centers spy on citizens, produce 'shoddy' work, report say

jamesrage said:

This is why I think elected officials and government agents deserve no privacy.People who authorize and or spy on people deserve no privacy.


Homeland Security 'fusion' centers spy on citizens, produce 'shoddy' work, report says - Open Channel

The Department of Homeland Security has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a network of 77 so-called “fusion” intelligence centers that have collected personal information on some U.S. citizens — including detailing the “reading habits” of American Muslims — while producing “shoddy” reports and making no contribution to thwarting any terrorist plots, a new Senate report states.

The “ fusion centers,” created under President George W. Bush and expanded under President Barack Obama, consist of special teams of federal , state and local officials collecting and analyzing intelligence on suspicious activities throughout the country. They have been hailed by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as “one of the centerpieces” of the nation’s counterterrorism efforts.
But a bipartisan report by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations released Tuesday concludes that the centers “often produced irrelevant” and "useless” intelligence reports. “There were times when it was, ‘What a bunch of crap is coming through,’” one senior Homeland Security official is quoted as saying .

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Fisher said:

I read about this yesterday. My conclusion is what I have always suspected to be true--we just are woefully incapable of processing large quantities of random information in a useable way. 90% of this crap is window-dressing to create the illusion we are doing something meaningful.

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American said:

THIS is a great reason to vote for Romney, if nothing else to get rid of Big Sis.

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jamesrage said:

How do we know Romney won't just keep it around or expand it like Obama did?

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American said:

THIS is a great reason to vote for Romney, if nothing else to get rid of Big Sis.

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jamesrage said:

How do we know Romney won't just keep it around or expand it like Obama did?

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Zyphlin said:

And you base the idea that Romney will act differently than Bush and Obama on this issue on.........?

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jamesrage said:

This is why I think elected officials and government agents deserve no privacy.People who authorize and or spy on people deserve no privacy.


Homeland Security 'fusion' centers spy on citizens, produce 'shoddy' work, report says - Open Channel

The Department of Homeland Security has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a network of 77 so-called “fusion” intelligence centers that have collected personal information on some U.S. citizens — including detailing the “reading habits” of American Muslims — while producing “shoddy” reports and making no contribution to thwarting any terrorist plots, a new Senate report states.

The “ fusion centers,” created under President George W. Bush and expanded under President Barack Obama, consist of special teams of federal , state and local officials collecting and analyzing intelligence on suspicious activities throughout the country. They have been hailed by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as “one of the centerpieces” of the nation’s counterterrorism efforts.
But a bipartisan report by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations released Tuesday concludes that the centers “often produced irrelevant” and "useless” intelligence reports. “There were times when it was, ‘What a bunch of crap is coming through,’” one senior Homeland Security official is quoted as saying .

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hawke812 said:

I would rather the government not have the power to do this. If any are caught spying on us, they should be removed from office immediately.

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Dittohead not! said:

We have a way of removing unsatisfactory politicians from office. It is called "elections". Unfortunately, we seldom exercise our right to get rid of the rascals.

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hawke812 said:

Senators and congressmen resign after scandals all the time. There are recall votes as well. It is not too far fetched to remove politicians from office when they abuse their power. Waiting for an election takes too long.

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Dittohead not! said:

Umm, sure. How many congresscritters can you think of who have resigned due to scandals? How many have been recalled? You would think that, given the single digits approval rating of Congress, most of them would be replaced in the upcoming election, but that never seems to happen either, does it?

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hawke812 said:

Recall election - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Recall of State Officials

Recalls do not occur often, but they do happen. There is a list of recalled politicians in both links.

Most politicians resign over sex scandals. But some resigned over a threat of a recall election.

List of federal political sex scandals in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In 2011, there were at least 150 recall elections in the United States. Of these, 75 officials were recalled, and nine officials resigned under threat of recall. Recalls were held in 17 states in 73 different jurisdictions. Michigan had the most recalls (at least 30). The year set a record for number of state legislator recall elections (11 elections) beating with previous one-year high (three elections). Three jurisdictions adopted the recall in 2011.[8]

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jamesrage said:

This is why I think elected officials and government agents deserve no privacy.People who authorize and or spy on people deserve no privacy.

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Dittohead not! said:

We have a way of removing unsatisfactory politicians from office. It is called "elections". Unfortunately, we seldom exercise our right to get rid of the rascals.

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jamesrage said:

In a country with 9%-to-18% approval rating for congress and a 90% reelection rate for incumbents?

Stop Repeat Offenders. Don't Re-Elect Them!

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jamesrage said:

This is why I think elected officials and government agents deserve no privacy.People who authorize and or spy on people deserve no privacy.


Homeland Security 'fusion' centers spy on citizens, produce 'shoddy' work, report says - Open Channel

The Department of Homeland Security has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a network of 77 so-called “fusion” intelligence centers that have collected personal information on some U.S. citizens — including detailing the “reading habits” of American Muslims — while producing “shoddy” reports and making no contribution to thwarting any terrorist plots, a new Senate report states.

The “ fusion centers,” created under President George W. Bush and expanded under President Barack Obama, consist of special teams of federal , state and local officials collecting and analyzing intelligence on suspicious activities throughout the country. They have been hailed by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as “one of the centerpieces” of the nation’s counterterrorism efforts.
But a bipartisan report by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations released Tuesday concludes that the centers “often produced irrelevant” and "useless” intelligence reports. “There were times when it was, ‘What a bunch of crap is coming through,’” one senior Homeland Security official is quoted as saying .

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jamesrage said:

This is why I think elected officials and government agents deserve no privacy.People who authorize and or spy on people deserve no privacy.


Homeland Security 'fusion' centers spy on citizens, produce 'shoddy' work, report says - Open Channel

The Department of Homeland Security has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a network of 77 so-called “fusion” intelligence centers that have collected personal information on some U.S. citizens — including detailing the “reading habits” of American Muslims — while producing “shoddy” reports and making no contribution to thwarting any terrorist plots, a new Senate report states.

The “ fusion centers,” created under President George W. Bush and expanded under President Barack Obama, consist of special teams of federal , state and local officials collecting and analyzing intelligence on suspicious activities throughout the country. They have been hailed by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as “one of the centerpieces” of the nation’s counterterrorism efforts.
But a bipartisan report by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations released Tuesday concludes that the centers “often produced irrelevant” and "useless” intelligence reports. “There were times when it was, ‘What a bunch of crap is coming through,’” one senior Homeland Security official is quoted as saying .

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mac said:

It will take some time for DHS intelligence to find it's flow. The same is true for all the Intelligence organizations that currently exist. There's quite a bit of trial and error involved with formulation of an effective mission oriented intelligence program.

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Dittohead not! said:

Exactly.

Now, how do we get that message to the average voter?

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Dittohead not! said:

Exactly.

Now, how do we get that message to the average voter?

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