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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I reject that as someone who has studied Constitutional law. Liberal justices gave us the precedent of the New Deal. Game Set and Match
    As somebody who has studied Constitutional Law myself, I assure you that liberal justices are friendlier to issues of cloning and stem cell research than conservative ones. I could certainly provided citations to cases on stem cell research to prove this, but I suspect you already know it to be true and are simply opting to use a cheap debate tactic.

    Who gives a **** about the New Deal? Life and death issues trump money. Concerns about money are incredibly petty compared to medical issues.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    some good=yes but the most harm as well
    Eh, that'll just come down to ideological differences I guess.

    And we haven't discussed the the biggest decision of the "liberal" Warren Court, that being Brown v. Board.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Even via the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment?
    I regret I am not familiar with the caselaw or reasoning supporting the public defender requirement, but I would speculate that it is probably not based on original intent.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I regret I am not familiar with the caselaw or reasoning supporting the public defender requirement, but I would speculate that it is probably not based on original intent.
    That's fine. By the way, I am not claiming to be an expert in constitutional law, by any means.

    I'm just a recent college graduate.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Eh, that'll just come down to ideological differences I guess.

    And we haven't discussed the the biggest decision of the "liberal" Warren Court, that being Brown v. Board.
    If your ideology favors human lives over money, there is no question that liberal judges are preferable to conservative ones.

    If only there were libertarian judges... we'd have the best of both worlds. As it is, the system is such that we have to choose between people and pennies. It's unfortunate, but the choice is obvious.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Partisan words for lie.
    What do you mean?

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    That's fine. By the way, I am not claiming to be an expert in constitutional law, by any means.

    I'm just a recent college graduate.
    You should have just said you're a lawyer.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    If your ideology favors human lives over money, there is no question that liberal judges are preferable to conservative ones.

    If only there were libertarian judges... we'd have the best of both worlds. As it is, the system is such that we have to choose between people and pennies. It's unfortunate, but the choice is obvious.
    I "want" to be more libertarian. But, I'm not libertarian.

    If that makes sense.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    As somebody who has studied Constitutional Law myself, I assure you that liberal justices are friendlier to issues of cloning and stem cell research than conservative ones. I could certainly provided citations to cases on stem cell research to prove this, but I suspect you already know it to be true and are simply opting to use a cheap debate tactic.

    Who gives a **** about the New Deal? Life and death issues trump money. Concerns about money are incredibly petty compared to medical issues.
    cloning and stem cell research are hardly center stage in the issue of too much government.

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    Re: Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You should have just said you're a lawyer.
    Ha!

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