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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    In general private/public, commenting on physical characteristics is bad etiquette (or worse).
    With public figures, entertainers, etc., it comes with the territory, and clearly this person made the choice to make this an issue on-air.



    It's not theory, in the general population it's a fact. A fact. A fact. Which is of course how they rationalize it away, by denying it.
    Habits, choice, working around ones genetics and preferences, shifting a diet and gradually aquiring healthier taste, things things take work, and some people avoid it. We all rationalize away the things we don't want to do to some degree. For some, this becomes basically a mental condition, a hardcore refusal to admit reality (and it's not just overeating, lots of people do this with lots of behaviors).

    The issue here is that liberals want me, involuntarily, to pay for this persons healthcare. And if I have no choice in that, why the **** should you be free to overeat and not exercise, knowing this will cost me more? Chaining them to me (by me providing healthcare money for them) might seem like a good idea, until I drag them with me at a pace they can't keep up with. Then what, we'll have to restrict my freedom to require them to live moderately healthy if I'm paying their way? Surely this is reasonable!
    Oh here it comes... You already are paying for people's healthcare. Having them buy their own insurance saves you money.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    From what I understand, the latest consensus is that no more than 1% of obesity in America is caused by an actual medical condition. That means that 99% of the fat people out there are fat because they're just not doing what they're supposed to be doing. It drives me crazy that this is always the first thing you guys latch onto when the subject is being discussed. It's just not reality. Nothing is making 99/100 of these people fat. They are doing it to themselves.

    And I agree about the drug thing. I know that the first FDA approved diet pill hit the market a few years ago, because my GF took it for a little while. It was a big deal at the time, but I haven't heard much about it since. Apparently it's no miracle drug, or I'm sure everyone would be on it.
    Care to post a link for that? Knowing how common PCOS and thyroid disorders are, I don't believe that number at all. Not to mention all the medications that cause weight gain. I'm not only talking about medical conditions either, because having a slow metabolism isn't necessarily a medical condition. All I'm saying is that people are different. If you lost weight, great for you. It's not as easy for some. Our bodies have evolved to hold on to every calorie we get and slow our metabolisms when we start to lose weight. It's not easy. If it were, the majority of the country wouldn't be overweight! It's hard to lose weight. That is the reality. Denying that fact and thinking you're better than people who need to lose weight isn't helpful.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Care to post a link for that? Knowing how common PCOS and thyroid disorders are, I don't believe that number at all. Not to mention all the medications that cause weight gain. I'm not only talking about medical conditions either, because having a slow metabolism isn't necessarily a medical condition. All I'm saying is that people are different. If you lost weight, great for you. It's not as easy for some. Our bodies have evolved to hold on to every calorie we get and slow our metabolisms when we start to lose weight. It's not easy. If it were, the majority of the country wouldn't be overweight! It's hard to lose weight. That is the reality. Denying that fact and thinking you're better than people who need to lose weight isn't helpful.
    My fault. It was genetics, not general medical conditions. The point still stands. Factor in whatever conditions you want, anyone with half a brain and an ounce of common sense and intellectual honesty will know that the vast, vast majority of obesity is caused by choices in lifestyle, and nothing more. I mean, we can literally trace back the rising rates to societal trends towards larger portions, higher calories, and more sedentary lifestyles. The timeline is precise. It's plain as day.

    Genetic causes of obesity: 1%? - Wellsphere
    The obesity epidemic we are facing today unfolded over the past few decades and can clearly not be explained by changes in the frequency of risk alleles. It is more likely due to a changing social and physical environment that encourages consumption and discourages expenditure of energy, behaviors that are poorly compatible with the genome that we have inherited.
    And don't presume to tell me that I had it easier than anyone else. You don't know anything about it. Losing 100 pounds was the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life, and keeping it off is something I still continue to struggle with almost a decade later. I KNOW EXACTLY how hard it is. I have a very slow metabolism, still to this day. I just accepted the fact a long time ago that I am one of the less fortunate people that is going to have to be ultra disciplined and vigilant about my weight for the rest of my life. Them's the breaks. Some of us have disadvantages, and we make adjustments and work harder as needed. Or we don't work harder and use them as excuses. Simple as. I know all kinds of people who are "trying" to lose weight, and when I look into what they are actually doing, they're really barely trying at all. People lie to themselves. I know because I used to do it too, before I finally pulled my head out of my ass and got serious about it.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    This is a response from the person who wrote the letter:

    "Given this country's present epidemic of obesity and the many truly horrible diseases related thereto, and considering Jennifer Livingston's fortuitous position in the community, I hope she will finally take advantage of a rare and golden opportunity to influence the health and psychological well-being of Coulee Region children by transforming herself for all of her viewers to see over the next year, and, to that end, I would be absolutely pleased to offer Jennifer any advice or support she would be willing to accept."


    "Ken Krause is an anti-obesity crusader."

    Kenneth Krause, personal injury lawyer, wrote letter to Jennifer Livingston calling her obese- Minneapolis - News - The Blotter

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This is a response from the person who wrote the letter:

    "Given this country's present epidemic of obesity and the many truly horrible diseases related thereto, and considering Jennifer Livingston's fortuitous position in the community, I hope she will finally take advantage of a rare and golden opportunity to influence the health and psychological well-being of Coulee Region children by transforming herself for all of her viewers to see over the next year, and, to that end, I would be absolutely pleased to offer Jennifer any advice or support she would be willing to accept."


    "Ken Krause is an anti-obesity crusader."

    Kenneth Krause, personal injury lawyer, wrote letter to Jennifer Livingston calling her obese- Minneapolis - News - The Blotter
    He's an ass. When I was in radio we got those types all the time always calling in to push their views, and frankly all these groups should be ashamed of themselves.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    He's an ass. When I was in radio we got those types all the time always calling in to push their views, and frankly all these groups should be ashamed of themselves.
    I frankly get turned off by any kind of crusader. Crusades aren't just for religions anymore.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I frankly get turned off by any kind of crusader. Crusades aren't just for religions anymore.
    Yep. I probably have a better workout regimen than that guy, difference is I only share when asked.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    He's an ass. When I was in radio we got those types all the time always calling in to push their views, and frankly all these groups should be ashamed of themselves.
    He sounds like a schmuck and should mind his own business. The newswoman was equally schmucky in her behavior regarding this as well. If she does not want to get this type of mail she should not be a public figure, it goes with the territory and she should be more adept at handling this.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    He sounds like a schmuck and should mind his own business. The newswoman was equally schmucky in her behavior regarding this as well. If she does not want to get this type of mail she should not be a public figure, it goes with the territory and she should be more adept at handling this.
    Connery, that was well and susictly said. Bravo. I wish I said it.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    He sounds like a schmuck and should mind his own business. The newswoman was equally schmucky in her behavior regarding this as well. If she does not want to get this type of mail she should not be a public figure, it goes with the territory and she should be more adept at handling this.
    Sure, and I can agree to that. My first take was that it was a reader comment section of the show but it looks like a contact e-mail she got. I actually don't blame her for her response, and yes becoming a public figure does invite unwanted scrutiny and contact but it doesn't excuse that kind of e-mail.
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