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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    I don't really understand why it is "cruel" to say somebody is making terrible decisions with their body by overeating. Crass? Crude? Rude? Sure. But "cruel"? Saying Paul Ryan has the psychometric possibility of being a serial rapist is cruel. Saying somebody is fat? Well, sometimes it's the truth.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    I'm not saying that people consciously point at the TV and say "I wanna be fat like that lady". But if you think that all the movie characters you've idolized, and figures you've seen on magazines and in comic books and on billboards and television shows and commercials, and all the musicians you've listened to and on and on and on haven't had an effect on the development of who you are and what your attitude about society and health and everything is, then you're kidding yourself.

    And I never said "DIRECT effect", but I like how you slipped that in there, lol. This guy...
    My role models have a DIRECT effect on me and my behavior. My rolemodels I have met and interacted with, and studied. Thats why I said that. Do those people in the movies ect, affect me directly no. So what they do is not very relevent to me. Thats not to say there is no effect, just that effect is for myself anyhow is very limited and has to be in line with my overarching thinking. They may nuance my thinking and there may be a inovative idea I will lift, but that is the extent of the influence.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't really understand why it is "cruel" to say somebody is making terrible decisions with their body by overeating. Crass? Crude? Rude? Sure. But "cruel"? Saying Paul Ryan has the psychometric possibility of being a serial rapist is cruel. Saying somebody is fat? Well, sometimes it's the truth.
    Saying people's choices are terrible isn't cruel, it's the truth and most of the time the person already knows that. What is cruel is saying they are a bad example, or disgusting, or other commentary that focuses on the person's worth rather than their decisions.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Saying people's choices are terrible isn't cruel, it's the truth and most of the time the person already knows that. What is cruel is saying they are a bad example, or disgusting, or other commentary that focuses on the person's worth rather than their decisions.
    The problem: They are a bad example of what being healthy is.

    Would you use them as an example of what being healthy is? I sure as hell wouldn't.

    As far as disgusting or whatever, I didn't see that on the letter so I can't really speak on it. But this person is sure as hell as bad example of what a healthy life should be like. At least on the outside. I don't know if she goes to the gym or tries to eat healthy but I know for a fact I wouldn't use them as an example of a healthy individual. Telling them that isn't cruel, it's realistic. A little rude? That too. But I simply don't see the cruelty in telling somebody that what they're doing to themselves (specially at such a young age) is unhealthy and they should feel bad about it.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I believe it was all about someone in the public eye setting an example which does perhaps in a very minuscule way effect society. When one looks around and sees a lot of people overweight one begins to believe it is acceptable and ok, I mean after all most Americans are overweight so it is not an issue right? Perhaps it isnt really anyone elses business but it certainly isn't something to aspire to.

    I felt the message was written in a respectful way and the author did not seem to be rude in his question. I think it simply struck a nerve with her, she is probably very aware of her weight and is not happy with it herself.
    I just dont understand why anybody would take their valuable time to care. Maybe its just me.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I just dont understand why anybody would take their valuable time to care. Maybe its just me.
    He explained why the collective health of a society is important. The Romans fell because they got fat and lazy.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He explained why the collective health of a society is important. The Romans fell because they got fat and lazy.
    I am not a ward of the state, and I dont consider you one either. My health or lack there off is none of your business as it is yours is none of mine. Its a waste of time and thought. The only time it should be our business is when it directly affects us negatively.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem: They are a bad example of what being healthy is.

    Would you use them as an example of what being healthy is? I sure as hell wouldn't.

    As far as disgusting or whatever, I didn't see that on the letter so I can't really speak on it. But this person is sure as hell as bad example of what a healthy life should be like. At least on the outside. I don't know if she goes to the gym or tries to eat healthy but I know for a fact I wouldn't use them as an example of a healthy individual. Telling them that isn't cruel, it's realistic. A little rude? That too. But I simply don't see the cruelty in telling somebody that what they're doing to themselves (specially at such a young age) is unhealthy and they should feel bad about it.
    An example of being healthy no, at least not on the surface. There is compelling research stating underweight might actually be more dangerous but either extreme isn't the pinnacle of health. The problem I have with the e-mail is that this reporter doesn't claim to be a fitness guru or example of health, someone went out of their way to assign a "duty" where one doesn't exist for her to do her job correctly.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I am not a ward of the state, and I dont consider you one either.
    Straw man.

    My health or lack there off is none of your business as it is yours is none of mine.
    Straw man.

    Its a waste of time and thought. The only time it should be our business is when it directly affects us negatively.
    A nation of fat and unhealthy people affects a society and everyone in it directly.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Straw man.



    Straw man.



    A nation of fat and unhealthy people affects a society and everyone in it directly.

    Straw man.
    How so?

    A nation of fat and unhealthy people affects a society and everyone in it directly.
    Again how so?

    Should we then tell or force people to comply to norms? If not, then what is the point? How about when they say to go pound sand? Then what?
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