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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    There is nothing wrong with it. No one should feel it their place to tell her she is a bad role model for "being obese while a public figure". The commenter was the very definition of an asshole, and frankly a nanny stater. If people are offended by her body type they should keep it to themselves, I've worked with great people who have had life long weight issues and they are kind, good hearted, and hard working people. Those same friends are like family to me and they try their best to manage it, one of them sought professional help, the other was medically restricted in workouts due to a sciatic nerve issue that could paralyze her if she overdoes it and I think she'd be happier overweight and walking than disabled.

    Like I've said earlier, I'm trying to get back into form but was built in a way that could have given me reason to judge others if I wanted to, but frankly that would have been rude, and beyond that it would have said more about me than the person being judged. You don't get people to adopt healthier lifestyles by bullying, condescending, and judging them. It doesn't happen by law or coercion, that person MUST be ready to come to that after making their own decisions, those lifestyle choices stick, vanity choices never do.
    I never said fat people aren't good, decent people. This is America. You think I don't have personal relationships with people who are obese? We ALL do.

    But I'm sorry... anyone who believes that creating and preaching a societal attitude of acceptance around a problem is not going to worsen the problem is a fool. We can't start telling people that it's ok to be fat and then pretend that the result won't be people thinking it's ok to be fat. I mean what kind of sense does that make? We don't tell people that it's ok to be an alcoholic; we confront. We judge.

    And don't give me that nanny state garbage. Nobody is advocating government control over what we eat, or how much we exercise. I'm against Michelle Obama's little lunch program, and restrictions on portions and whatnot. This letter writer was not being nanny stateish. He was advocating the blunt acknowledgment of ugly truth, and personal responsibility to fix the problem. You're a conservative; you should understand that. You, on the other hand, are acting very much like your average liberal here: ignoring and exacerbating a problem to avoid being insensitive to peoples' feelings.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I saw the ladies clip. And have a question which comes to me because of the number of posts about. Why is her weight calorie intact and outgo any of mine or your business? Why would anybody care? Its her business and her decision, doesnt effect us in any direct way so whats the point? It seems to me much ado about nothing.
    For the same reason it's ok to be upset about a supermodel who weighs 85 pounds being on the cover of a magazine. These people are public, visible role models. They DO have an effect.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    I never said fat people aren't good, decent people. This is America. You think I don't have personal relationships with people who are obese? We ALL do.

    But I'm sorry... anyone who believes that creating and preaching a societal attitude of acceptance around a problem is not going to worsen the problem is a fool. We can't start telling people that it's ok to be fat and then pretend that the result won't be people thinking it's ok to be fat. I mean what kind of sense does that make? We don't tell people that it's ok to be an alcoholic; we confront. We judge.

    And don't give me that nanny state garbage. Nobody is advocating government control over what we eat, or how much we exercise. I'm against Michelle Obama's little lunch program, and restrictions on portions and whatnot. This letter writer was not being nanny stateish. He was advocating the blunt acknowledgment of ugly truth, and personal responsibility to fix the problem. You're a conservative; you should understand that. You, on the other hand, are acting very much like your average liberal here: ignoring and exacerbating a problem to avoid being insensitive to peoples' feelings.
    I was afraid you might take it as commentary on your actual post. It's actually commentary on the person who went out of his way to insult the news anchor and the situation in general. People these days get into "fat bashing", while obviously no one wants to be fat, what I am saying is that you don't get people to listen to advice by insulting them, obese people know they are obese and some don't know where to turn for help, some do but don't have time.

    What I'm getting at is the underlying societal attitude about fat people is more damaging than the obesity itself. When I work out with new workout partners who haven't had a lot of exposure to exercise I don't go "drill seargent", but rather encouragement and making workouts fun(even though I damn near kill myself during mine). My overall point is that knocking people for obesity isn't cool, they have feelings and when you get people depressed they are even LESS likely to get out of habits that exacerbate the problem.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    For the same reason it's ok to be upset about a supermodel who weighs 85 pounds being on the cover of a magazine. These people are public, visible role models. They DO have an effect.
    And what direct effect would that be? I could care less either way. Why anybody would waste energy being upset about it is beyond me. Rolemodels? You have rolemodels on a magazine? Or the news? Or TV, or the internet? Really? People you've probaly never met and know practicaly nothing about. Why on earth anybody do that? Thats sad.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Yes, I understand his point. It's theoretically possible for everyone to lose weight. You can do the math and calculate how many calories you need to eat. But people who have a slower metabolism or are an endocrine issue like insulin resistant are going to have a much, much harder time of it. I just wish we had something more to help these people than to shrug and say "well, it's your fault you're fat. Deal with it." There is a real market for a safe prescription appetite suppressant that works, and the first drug company to develop one is going to make billions.
    From what I understand, the latest consensus is that no more than 1% of obesity in America is caused by an actual medical condition. That means that 99% of the fat people out there are fat because they're just not doing what they're supposed to be doing. It drives me crazy that this is always the first thing you guys latch onto when the subject is being discussed. It's just not reality. Nothing is making 99/100 of these people fat. They are doing it to themselves.

    And I agree about the drug thing. I know that the first FDA approved diet pill hit the market a few years ago, because my GF took it for a little while. It was a big deal at the time, but I haven't heard much about it since. Apparently it's no miracle drug, or I'm sure everyone would be on it.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I was afraid you might take it as commentary on your actual post. It's actually commentary on the person who went out of his way to insult the news anchor and the situation in general. People these days get into "fat bashing", while obviously no one wants to be fat, what I am saying is that you don't get people to listen to advice by insulting them, obese people know they are obese and some don't know where to turn for help, some do but don't have time.

    What I'm getting at is the underlying societal attitude about fat people is more damaging than the obesity itself. When I work out with new workout partners who haven't had a lot of exposure to exercise I don't go "drill seargent", but rather encouragement and making workouts fun(even though I damn near kill myself during mine). My overall point is that knocking people for obesity isn't cool, they have feelings and when you get people depressed they are even LESS likely to get out of habits that exacerbate the problem.
    Alright well I guess I can kind of agree with you there. I wouldn't have written the letter. And if I had, it would have been much less harsh and more encouraging. I never said the guy wasn't a dick.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    I think that no doubt the news anchor is sensitive about her weight problem and therefore is angry about the criticism, but to respond on air in such an exaggerated manner is unnecessary. It could have been best to treat the email as a "trolling" incident because the whole affair now only highlights her hypersensibility and wastes everybody's energy and time.

    Most important, she shouldn't attempt to hijack the program with her own personal issues which surely are of little or no interest to the audience.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    And what direct effect would that be? I could care less either way. Why anybody would waste energy being upset about it is beyond me. Rolemodels? You have rolemodels on a magazine? Or the news? Or TV, or the internet? Really? People you've probaly never met and know practicaly nothing about. Why on earth anybody do that? Thats sad.
    I'm not saying that people consciously point at the TV and say "I wanna be fat like that lady". But if you think that all the movie characters you've idolized, and figures you've seen on magazines and in comic books and on billboards and television shows and commercials, and all the musicians you've listened to and on and on and on haven't had an effect on the development of who you are and what your attitude about society and health and everything is, then you're kidding yourself.

    And I never said "DIRECT effect", but I like how you slipped that in there, lol. This guy...

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    Alright well I guess I can kind of agree with you there. I wouldn't have written the letter. And if I had, it would have been much less harsh and more encouraging. I never said the guy wasn't a dick.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I saw the ladies clip. And have a question which comes to me because of the number of posts about. Why is her weight calorie intact and outgo any of mine or your business? Why would anybody care? Its her business and her decision, doesnt effect us in any direct way so whats the point? It seems to me much ado about nothing.

    I believe it was all about someone in the public eye setting an example which does perhaps in a very minuscule way effect society. When one looks around and sees a lot of people overweight one begins to believe it is acceptable and ok, I mean after all most Americans are overweight so it is not an issue right? Perhaps it isnt really anyone elses business but it certainly isn't something to aspire to.

    I felt the message was written in a respectful way and the author did not seem to be rude in his question. I think it simply struck a nerve with her, she is probably very aware of her weight and is not happy with it herself.

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