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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Seriously? Are we talking about health or not? Of course if we lock someone in a cage and STARVE them near death they will lose weight. Do I need to tell you that's not healthy? Good lord.

    I was not trying to advocate anyone starve to near death I was pointing out that for most people its all about intake vs used energy. However many people think they are starving when they eat the amount that they actually should for the amount of activity they are used to, people equate hunger with starving. Id like to point out that it does not take much to gain weight. An apple of just 95 calories seems such a harmless and trivial food, a food considered healthy, however just an apple a day over the calories you use that day will eventually lead to obesity, granted it would take a lifetime. The problem most face is they do not believe they are eating to much when in fact they are.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

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    Of course I'll "let" her. I didn't say she had to be a stick figure by next Thursday at sundown.

    I'm only arguing with your (and others') assertion that there's nothing wrong with it, and she shouldn't feel compelled to change at all.
    There is nothing wrong with it. No one should feel it their place to tell her she is a bad role model for "being obese while a public figure". The commenter was the very definition of an asshole, and frankly a nanny stater. If people are offended by her body type they should keep it to themselves, I've worked with great people who have had life long weight issues and they are kind, good hearted, and hard working people. Those same friends are like family to me and they try their best to manage it, one of them sought professional help, the other was medically restricted in workouts due to a sciatic nerve issue that could paralyze her if she overdoes it and I think she'd be happier overweight and walking than disabled.

    Like I've said earlier, I'm trying to get back into form but was built in a way that could have given me reason to judge others if I wanted to, but frankly that would have been rude, and beyond that it would have said more about me than the person being judged. You don't get people to adopt healthier lifestyles by bullying, condescending, and judging them. It doesn't happen by law or coercion, that person MUST be ready to come to that after making their own decisions, those lifestyle choices stick, vanity choices never do.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    We are facing a health epidemic in this country because of our culture. Every other commercial on tv is about food. Kids are fed fattening fried crap in schools and not given recess anymore. We have more fast food restaurants than anywhere else in the world. We work longer hours and can't exercise like we need to as a result. Restaurant portions are all huge.

    This news woman hasn't made anyone else fat. These things have. I see a bunch of people on here advocating for personal responsibility that's very misplaced. This woman has a responsibility to the public not to be fat. Why? Because the public are sheep that have no responsibility of their own to take care of themselves? You're worried she is going to influence your kids negatively? You wouldn't be if you were responsible yourself and teaching your kids like you should be. Parent are an infinitely bigger influence than some woman they probably don't even watch on tv. You have responsibility over yourself and your kids. Whining about someone else's choices is absolutely pointless, and really distasteful.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Seriously? Are we talking about health or not? Of course if we lock someone in a cage and STARVE them near death they will lose weight. Do I need to tell you that's not healthy? Good lord.
    He wasn't claiming that starvation is healthy. In fact, he said the exact opposite explicitly. He was responding to the notion that many people are just magically fat regardless of how much they eat. He was pointing out that there are no fat people in places and scenarios where people don't get enough to eat. No matter what our individual metabolisms may be like, our fat storage is always directly dependent on how many calories we take in, in relation to how many we burn off. That was his point. That the excuse of "Well a lot of fat people are medically prone to blahblahblah" doesn't hold water.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    He wasn't claiming that starvation is healthy. In fact, he said the exact opposite explicitly. He was responding to the notion that many people are just magically fat regardless of how much they eat. He was pointing out that there are no fat people in places and scenarios where people don't get enough to eat. No matter what our individual metabolisms may be like, our fat storage is always directly dependent on how many calories we take in, in relation to how many we burn off. That was his point. That the excuse of "Well a lot of fat people are medically prone to blahblahblah" doesn't hold water.
    I saw the ladies clip. And have a question which comes to me because of the number of posts about. Why is her weight calorie intact and outgo any of mine or your business? Why would anybody care? Its her business and her decision, doesnt effect us in any direct way so whats the point? It seems to me much ado about nothing.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I was not trying to advocate anyone starve to near death I was pointing out that for most people its all about intake vs used energy. However many people think they are starving when they eat the amount that they actually should for the amount of activity they are used to, people equate hunger with starving. Id like to point out that it does not take much to gain weight. An apple of just 95 calories seems such a harmless and trivial food, a food considered healthy, however just an apple a day over the calories you use that day will eventually lead to obesity, granted it would take a lifetime. The problem most face is they do not believe they are eating to much when in fact they are.
    Your example only shows that limiting calories to a point that is dangerous will cause someone to lose weight. No kidding. Yeah, it's about intake and output but everybody will have drastically different results when calories are reduced and exercise is increased. It's easy for some and some will struggle with it for their entire lives.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Your example only shows that limiting calories to a point that is dangerous will cause someone to lose weight. No kidding. Yeah, it's about intake and output but everybody will have drastically different results when calories are reduced and exercise is increased. It's easy for some and some will struggle with it for their entire lives.
    I've seen enough research showing that eating disorders among teenaged women are on the rise in the U.S from them trying to live up to the model standard of beauty and it sickens me. I've made my choice in life to stay active in my workouts but it isn't for everyone and people who don't have time aren't necessarily lazy. Some people are busy with family and work and literally have no extra time to hit the gym, some people have slow metabolisms and still maintain an exercise schedule, etc.

    I would rather someone be happy and healthy than thin, miserable, and killing themselves by malnutrition.
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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    He wasn't claiming that starvation is healthy. In fact, he said the exact opposite explicitly. He was responding to the notion that many people are just magically fat regardless of how much they eat. He was pointing out that there are no fat people in places and scenarios where people don't get enough to eat. No matter what our individual metabolisms may be like, our fat storage is always directly dependent on how many calories we take in, in relation to how many we burn off. That was his point. That the excuse of "Well a lot of fat people are medically prone to blahblahblah" doesn't hold water.
    Yes, I understand his point. It's theoretically possible for everyone to lose weight. You can do the math and calculate how many calories you need to eat. But people who have a slower metabolism or are an endocrine issue like insulin resistant are going to have a much, much harder time of it. I just wish we had something more to help these people than to shrug and say "well, it's your fault you're fat. Deal with it." There is a real market for a safe prescription appetite suppressant that works, and the first drug company to develop one is going to make billions.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    You know, the more I see of this issue the less sympathy I feel for this woman. Not only was it her choice to pursue a career that is assured to involve public scrutiny, I think she is greatly overplaying how her getting an email related to her weight correlates to others. Does she really think the guy who sent this to her is sending similar critiques to every overweight person he sees or is acquainted with? As another poster mentioned, it is unlikely many kids are watching the local news, particularly if she is on during the school day, and even if they do they would never even have been aware of the comments made about her if she hadn't decided to give them air time in a ploy for sympathy. I'm not sure this isn't just an attempt at self promotion and intended to gain publicity and possibly a better job offer for her. I also question if the station would have agreed to her airing personal dirty laundry if her husband wasn't also an anchor there. I would never insist or even suggest to this woman that she lose weight but when you are a celebrity(even a minor league one) quit whining that not all the public attention you receive is positive.

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    Re: News Anchor's on Air Response to Fat Shaming

    In general private/public, commenting on physical characteristics is bad etiquette (or worse).
    With public figures, entertainers, etc., it comes with the territory, and clearly this person made the choice to make this an issue on-air.

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Yes, I understand his point. It's theoretically possible for everyone to lose weight. You can do the math and calculate how many calories you need to eat. But people who have a slower metabolism or are an endocrine issue like insulin resistant are going to have a much, much harder time of it.billions.
    It's not theory, in the general population it's a fact. A fact. A fact. Which is of course how they rationalize it away, by denying it.
    Habits, choice, working around ones genetics and preferences, shifting a diet and gradually aquiring healthier taste, things things take work, and some people avoid it. We all rationalize away the things we don't want to do to some degree. For some, this becomes basically a mental condition, a hardcore refusal to admit reality (and it's not just overeating, lots of people do this with lots of behaviors).

    The issue here is that liberals want me, involuntarily, to pay for this persons healthcare. And if I have no choice in that, why the **** should you be free to overeat and not exercise, knowing this will cost me more? Chaining them to me (by me providing healthcare money for them) might seem like a good idea, until I drag them with me at a pace they can't keep up with. Then what, we'll have to restrict my freedom to require them to live moderately healthy if I'm paying their way? Surely this is reasonable!

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