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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollar

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Perhaps there will be a deal, but there is no deal now and the law requires a 60-day notice of layoffs. No one in the administration has the authority to issue a waiver, and Obama has no authority to compensate either the companies or the workers for legal expenses or lost wages.
    It is only required if mass layoffs are forseeable in the future and the Labor Department has stated that this is not the case.
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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I agree with Republicans on this one. These people deserve to know their jobs are up in the air, and the taxpayers should not be paying to help Obama avoid negative PR.

    I guess an argument can be made that he is trying to prevent panic in the market, but it comes across far too self-serving to me.
    All of this, and:

    What about the livelihoods of potentially laid off workers? If layoffs are imminent they should be given the opportunity to plan for that inevitability and seek out employment they can jump into at or before the layoffs take place.

    My boyfriend's mother worked for a company that moved all operations to Georgia. She was given an option six months before the move: Come with us or accept a severance with your last date being January 4th, 2012. It just seems like the right thing to do, whether it's mandated by law or not.
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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    But the Obamabots would be asinine enough to tank a deal, just like they did last time.
    way to re-write history there.
    Or do you always get your news from Fox?
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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You might think that there will be a compromise deal and there might, but businesses have to plan for the law as it is today and since the WARN act has a 60 day notification, they are put in a position to comply with the law. They could just as easily abolish the WARN act but we know that won't happen.

    Yes Ryan was one of the 7 no votes (the no votes included 4 D's and 3 R's) but it's not like Obama lobbied any of the members on how to vote. How about this, more Republican Senators voted for it than Democratic Senators. See, numbers can presented a lot of ways to show bias one way or the other.
    mea culpa. I did not realize that 4 dems also voted against it.

    This debt commission and its follow on in 2011 were toasted because of medicare and taxes The two sides were diametrically opposed with the reps wanting "voucherization" and the dems simply not interested in that. At a time of economic crisis to let ideology get in the way of solving the problems is unforgivable. Both sides are guilty. Can playing with citizens economic future for the sake of political point scoring and ideological intransigence be any sadder?
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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Highlighted some important details here:

    A) There's always the possibility that Congress will reach a new deal. Considering the amount of federal workers this entails, I would be shocked if they didn't.

    B) It doesn't seem like the layoffs are a guarantee. To me, it seems like Obama is confident that Congress will reach a new deal and he is will to compensate the workers if Congress fails to do it's job.

    This isn't about Obama, but Congress yet again failing to do their job.
    No...this is about congress failing to come to an agreement AND the WH trying to cover up the layoffs so it wont affect the election.

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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollar

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    It is only required if mass layoffs are forseeable in the future and the Labor Department has stated that this is not the case.
    If the layoffs are reasonably forseeable, which they certainly are in light of Congressional performance to date. The Labor Department has nothing to contribute to this question.
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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    way to re-write history there.
    Or do you always get your news from Fox?
    There is no history rewrite in my post. Sorry if you are disappointed.
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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I agree with Republicans on this one. These people deserve to know their jobs are up in the air, and the taxpayers should not be paying to help Obama avoid negative PR.

    I guess an argument can be made that he is trying to prevent panic in the market, but it comes across far too self-serving to me.
    The Republican inssited and voted for the sequestration cuts and now are cryng like the little children that they are. Actions have consequences, intelligent people learn that by the time they are 5.

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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...this is about congress failing to come to an agreement AND the WH trying to cover up the layoffs so it wont affect the election.
    So Obama talking about compensating workers that get screwed over by a do-nothing Congress is supposed to be a bad thing?
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Republicans rip White House for putting tax dollars on line over possible defense

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...this is about congress failing to come to an agreement AND the WH trying to cover up the layoffs so it wont affect the election.
    There will be no reason for the Republicans to hold up a deal after the election and that is what the Whitehouse believes will happen. Meanwhile it is business as usual for the obstructionist party.

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