Buddha is not God. I'm uncertain as to your definition of "impoverished lives and whatnot".
Seriously, i know you are driving a point here, but I don't see the relevance. It seems to me that your position is the defense of Christianity. It is my understanding that the thread is about Buddhism and Islam.The apologists playbook follows a typical pattern, usually involving dishonest comparisons to other religions, most notably Christianity. If something is common in Islam, find something rare in Christianity and equate. If something is happening today in Islam, find something in Christianity from 400 years ago and compare the two. If something is truly horrific in Islam, find something merely objectionable in Christianity and compare the two. That's what people do when they have predetermined they must defend. Heck, one poster in the thread even indicated she wished to remain ignorant on the subject of Islam -- it sure makes it much easier to defend when you don't know anything.
There you are again telling me what I think and what I need to do. I need - your words - to do these things to share your perspective, no? I somehow thought you hated Muslims because in part they were attempting to tell you what you need to do. The difference between what you are telling me what I am and what I need to think and what I need to be and Islamists doing much the same is what?Instead of indulging in equalences, you need to ask more questions. Which religion was started by a Warlord who was in the business of conquering other tribes and how did he use this religion towards that end? How does the language of this religion stress conformity, and what punishments does it contain for non conformity? How is the religion built upon the infallability of this warlord differ from those built around men of peace?
Try some other bait, Gardener. The stuff your chumming isn't working.You simply aren't asking any questions at all, but merely indulging in this "they are all the same" cr@p that so many people indule in. Religions AREN'T all the same, and treating them as if they are does showe a lack of critical thinking skills.
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I wonder how the term 'apologist' even got started. It's such an absurd notion, to deny the value of humility.
I didn't read this whole thread, but I assumed this started out of a discussion of an apology from the buddhist community? That would be a very natural, good, buddhist thing to do. The right mind, the right action, to prevent further violence. I don't see how this is a bad thing.
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"Advocates of capitalism are apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: the fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate." - Bertrand Russell
"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
-C G Jung
Somewhere the thread went from the OP to Muslim and Christian opposition. In fairness to Gardener, I don't believe he is criticizing or attacking Buddhism. It's apparent to me that he doesn't know that much about it. He isn't stupid, however.
His position isn't clear to me, but I'm guessing that he somehow feels that he must defend his personal beliefs, whatever they are.
That's kinda different than thinking they should be killed, ain't it?
Heck, having heard about some of the crazy stuff the Church of Scientology does to those who leave their cult, that still isn't as bad as killing them. People mock Scientologists unmercifully, and rightly so, for their harassment of ex cult members, yet they remain silent on the penalty of death under Islam because of political correctness.
All religions are the same, though, right?
"you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos