This is what the El Rukns Temple Looks Like today in Chicago In Chicago. Does it look like a Mosque?
This is what the Muslims Gangbangers Temple use to look like in the Original Building.
The El Rukns were a gang of ruthless drug dealers and pimps operative between 1977 and 1990, who attempted to shield themselves from federal inquiry under the facade of a religious organization. Between 1985 and 1987, the gang even dabbled in international terrorism, allegedly traveling to Libya and meeting with agents of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi to offer their services as domestic terrorists in return for money and weapons.
Jeff Fort founded the El Rukns upon his release from prison in 1977. Most of the gang leadership were comprised of select members of the gang Fort led during the 1960s, before his stint in prison, the Black P. Stones. The name "Rukn" refers to stones or rocks in Arabic. In 1977, Fort purchased a building at this location, 3947 S. Drexel, to serve as the new gang's headquarters, which he rechristened the "El Rukn Grand Major Temple". Here is a contemporary photo of the building during its Rukn heyday:
The apologists playbook follows a typical pattern, usually involving dishonest comparisons to other religions, most notably Christianity. If something is common in Islam, find something rare in Christianity and equate. If something is happening today in Islam, find something in Christianity from 400 years ago and compare the two. If something is truly horrific in Islam, find something merely objectionable in Christianity and compare the two. That's what people do when they have predetermined they must defend. Heck, one poster in the thread even indicated she wished to remain ignorant on the subject of Islam -- it sure makes it much easier to defend when you don't know anything.
Instead of indulging in equalences, you need to ask more questions. Which religion was started by a Warlord who was in the business of conquering other tribes and how did he use this religion towards that end? How does the language of this religion stress conformity, and what punishments does it contain for non conformity? How is the religion built upon the infallability of this warlord differ from those built around men of peace?
You simply aren't asking any questions at all, but merely indulging in this "they are all the same" cr@p that so many people indule in. Religions AREN'T all the same, and treating them as if they are does showe a lack of critical thinking skills.
"you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos
2001-2008: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
2009-2016: Dissent is the highest form of racism.
2017-? (Probably): Dissent is the highest form of misogyny.
Muslim and Islam are quite literally the SAME WORD. Islam is the infinitive, whereas Muslim is the participle.
To claim that one can be a Muslim without being an adherent of Islam is incorrect as a matter of definition.
But by all means, do not believe me. Tell everyone you meet what you think! I insist!
Plenty of people are so ignorant, as they believe that any condemnation of Islamism is a direct condemnation of Muslims, as has been evident in this thread. You appear unable to differentiate the two concepts, as evidenced by your knee-jerk reaction toward those of us who value western democracy, and are willing to identify what the problems are, and confront those problems. Rather than defending those who would prefer to stifle our free speech, as Muslim extremists would love to see, we are willing to defend it, no matter what the religious identification of anyone is, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or other.
"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
-C G Jung