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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    For Incognito.....

    He was born to the lineage of Mecca and the oldest tribes.

    Mohammed: aka-Mahomet.....led 27 military Campaigns against innocent villages and caravans and planeed 38 others.

    I am the Prophet who laughs killing my enemies. (Hadith)

    The Sirat Rasul Allah was written by Ibn Ishaq in 750 A.D. He died in 773 A.D. It was edited and abridged by Abd al-Malik ibn Hisham in 828 A.D. and translated by Alfred Guillaume under the title, The Life of Muhammad in 1955 by Oxford Press. Abd al-Malik ibn Hisham's "Life of Muhammad" relied on the earlier works. Ulmar al-Waqidi of Medina, who died in 825 A.D. produced a work, which portions of which have survived, called "The Expeditions of Muhammad". The History of al-Tabari was written by Abu Muhammad bin al-Tabari between 870 and 920 A.D. His monumental work was translated and published in 1987 through 1997 by the State University of New York Press. Make sure you study I, II, VI, VII, VIII, and IX. Al-Bukhari's Hadith, titled: Sahih Al-Bukhari and The True Traditions which was collected by Imam Bukhari in 850 A.D. Be sure to use the collector's original nomenclature because the only printed English translation (Publisher-Maktaba Dar-us-Salam, Translator-Muhammad Khan) was abridged and erroneously numbered. Finally, I recommend that you acquire at least three of the following Qur'an translations: Ahmed Ali, Pikthal, Noble by Muhsin Khan, Yusuf Ali, or Shakir. The oldest Qur'an fragments date to around 725 A.D. - a century after they were first recited.

    True History of Islam, Mohammed and the Koran


    I cannot copy this piece due to invisible ink. In order to read the lighter text Highlight and it will show up. Otherwise you can access the link.

    But it will give you some Historical Information despite the opinions of those who had written it. Most are Arabs and Muslims themselves.

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The process of converting was slow in the early years, and he was strongly opposed by other Meccans, who accused him of little respect for the religion of the forefathers, which had some resemblance with Islam, but was a polytheistic religion. It's narrated that once there was an ayat where three former Meccan goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-'Uzza and Manat, were mentioned as intermediaries, in surah 53.
    19 Have you though of Al-Lat and Al-'Uzza,
    20 and Manat, the third of the?
    21 These are intermediaries exalted whose intercession is to be hoped for.
    22 Such as they do not forget

    But these supposed ayats are not in our present Koran, where this text now is found: 21 Is it the male for you, and female for him?
    22 That would have been a crooked division!
    There are two interpretations of this: Many Muslim scholars doubt the sources. Some others, among them Western scholars, believe that the first version was an attempt to convince the Meccans to join Islam until surah 17 when these verses were corrected and removed. But the historical fact is that surah 53 was revealed in the 5th year of Prophethood, while surah 17 was revealed in the 11th year of Prophethood and during these 6 years the Meccan leaders, instead of being followers of Islam, they continued to persecute Muslims.
    No matter how one interprets this, all scholars seem to agree that the difficult conditions of the first few Muslims are reflected in this story.

    Guess ya was a little slow on the Uptake. Note the Meccan leaders were considered Muslim.
    You seem very smug for somebody who is utterly wrong. Wherever that unsourced quote is also wrong. A member the Islamic faith is Muslim. Note the SLM root word, meaning "peace" in Arabic. "Islam" means peace, and "Muslim" means "one who pracices peace."

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You seem very smug for somebody who is utterly wrong. Wherever that unsourced quote is also wrong. A member the Islamic faith is Muslim. Note the SLM root word, meaning "peace" in Arabic. "Islam" means peace, and "Muslim" means "one who pracices peace."


    He was born to the lineage of Mecca and the oldest tribes.

    The process of converting was slow in the early years, and he was strongly opposed by other Meccans, who accused him of little respect for the religion of the forefathers, which had some resemblance with Islam, but was a polytheistic religion. It's narrated that once there was an ayat where three former Meccan goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-'Uzza and Manat, were mentioned as intermediaries, in surah 53

    Looks like that process was slow in the Conversion.....Same line same people. Same Muslims! But you are welcome to read it whatever way you want.

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    MMC, other than the possibility of 9/11 how many times have you and people you know been attacked in Chicago by Muslims because of the religion of you and/or your family and friends?

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    Where is the national outcry to find the persons who burned the Toledo Islamic Center? Could it have been a non-Muslim religious act of violence? Hmmm?

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    MMC, other than the possibility of 9/11 how many times have you and people you know been attacked in Chicago by Muslims because of the religion of you and/or your family and friends?
    RT....I grew up fighting El Rukns and Ancient Family as well as some Bantu Stones. They are Muslim Gangs Right here in the Good Ole US of A. Are you Familiar with Jeff Fort who was convicted of being a terrorist. Did they come at me and my people over our religion in the US. NO! Did they come at us because of our way of life where we hung out, what we did, and because the color of our skin. Yes!

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He was born to the lineage of Mecca and the oldest tribes.

    The process of converting was slow in the early years, and he was strongly opposed by other Meccans, who accused him of little respect for the religion of the forefathers, which had some resemblance with Islam, but was a polytheistic religion. It's narrated that once there was an ayat where three former Meccan goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-'Uzza and Manat, were mentioned as intermediaries, in surah 53

    Looks like that process was slow in the Conversion.....Same line same people. Same Muslims! But you are welcome to read it whatever way you want.
    You're just talking gibberish. A Muslim is an adherent of Islam, just like Christian is an adherent of Christianity. Muslim and Islam are LITERALLY the same word.

    But hey, think whatever nonsense you like, and by all means keep talking about Muslims like they are an ethnic group. Tell EVERYBODY you meet that you think a person can be a Muslim but not Islamic. PLEASE.

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    While there is no telling when or where they will radical fanatics will strike next one thing to be sure they will strike when they hear or see something they do not like... kill em' that is the only answer!!!

    This is so ludicrous that when I read about this emotional eruption I could only think that maybe Curly was a Muslim fanatic........
    The Buddhist should be putting some kung fu on these muslims. Frankly I'm getting sick and tired of the muslims thinking they can go ape**** at will.
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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You're just talking gibberish. A Muslim is an adherent of Islam, just like Christian is an adherent of Christianity.

    But hey, think whatever nonsense you like, and by all means keep talking about Muslims like they are an ethnic group. Tell EVERYBODY you meet that a person can be a Muslim but not Islamic. PLEASE.
    Actually we use to call the American ones Moslems. So you can save all your bs. I grew up around Muslims lived with and fought against them. For years and long before I ever joined Uncle Sams gang. I don't play with the terminology. But you can keep going on about after Islam became something. Not while it was just beginning. So Spin it any other way you want.

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    Re: Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

    In the United States, there is no need to try to find some sort of illusive formula to identify those Muslims not currently practicing violent Jihad and those that are. They're all the same, some are presently dormant because their numbers are small in certain areas.

    Look around your own city. Regardless of how much you want to believe they like you, you will find that their Mosques are always built in a commanding position, overlooking all other aspects of your city, a clear sign of their perceived superiority and desire to fly their Muslim flag higher than any other. Notice how richly appointed their Mosques are, while their attendee numbers seem small. They build the Mosques and wait for the Muslim population to grow, just as they have for centuries.

    Know that Sharia Laws and punishments are NOT in a separate book, Sharia law is the cornerstone of the Koran. There is only one book, that book is the Koran and Sharia Law is the cornerstone of the Koran, which they all worship.

    If you choose to feel superior and worldly by seeking reasons to show deference for Muslims and argue on their behalf, know that you come across to others as a naive child.
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