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Greek Police Send Victims To Neo Nazi Protectors

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Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party is increasingly assuming the role of law enforcement officers on the streets of the bankrupt country, with mounting evidence that Athenians are being openly directed by police to seek help from the neo-Nazi group, analysts, activists and lawyers say. In return, a growing number of Greek crime victims have come to see the party, whose symbol bears an uncanny resemblance to the swastika, as a "protector".

One victim of crime, an eloquent US-trained civil servant, told the Guardian of her family's shock at being referred to the party when her mother recently called the police following an incident involving Albanian immigrants in their downtown apartment block. "They immediately said if it's an issue with immigrants go to Golden Dawn," said the 38-year-old, who fearing for her job and safety, spoke only on condition of anonymity. "We don't condone Golden Dawn but there is an acute social problem that has come with the breakdown of feeling of security among lower and middle class people in the urban centre," she told the Guardian. "If the police and official mechanism can't deliver and there is no recourse to justice, then you have to turn to other maverick solutions."

Other Greeks with similar experiences said the far-rightists, catapulted into parliament on a ticket of tackling "immigrant scum" were simply doing the job of a defunct state that had left a growing number feeling overwhelmed by a "sense of powerlessness". "Nature hates vacuums and Golden Dawn is just filling a vacuum that no other party is addressing," one woman lamented. "It gives 'little people' a sense that they can survive, that they are safe in their own homes."

Far from being tamed, parliamentary legitimacy appears only to have emboldened the extremists. In recent weeks racially-motivated attacks have proliferated. Immigrants have spoken of their fear of roaming the streets at night following a spate of attacks by black-clad men on motorbikes. Street vendors from Africa and Asia have also been targeted.

"For a lot of people in poorer neighbourhoods we are liberators," crowed Yiannis Lagos, one of 18 MPs from the stridently patriot "popular nationalist movement" to enter the 300-seat house in June. "The state does nothing," he told a TV chat show, adding that Golden Dawn was the only party that was helping Greeks, hit by record levels of poverty and unemployment, on the ground. Through an expansive social outreach programme, which also includes providing services to the elderly in crime-ridden areas, the group regularly distributes food and clothes parcels to the needy.

The strategy appears to be paying off. On the back of widespread anger over biting austerity measures that have also hit the poorest hardest, the popularity of the far-rightists has grown dramatically with polls indicating a surge in support for the party. One survey last week showed a near doubling in the number of people voicing "positive opinions" about Golden Dawn, up from 12% in May to 22%. The popularity of Nikos Michaloliakos, the party's rabble-rousing leader had shot up by 8 points, much more than any other party leader.

Paschos Mandravelis, a prominent political analyst, attributed the rise in part to the symbiotic relationship between the police and Golden Dawn. "Greeks haven't turned extremist overnight. A lot of the party's backing comes from the police, young recruits who are a-political and know nothing about the Nazis or Hitler," he said. "For them, Golden Dawn supporters are their only allies on the frontline when there are clashes between riot police and leftists."

Riding the wave, the party has taken steps to set up branches among diaspora Greek communities abroad, opening an office in New York last week. Others are expected to open in Australia and Canada. Cadres say they are seeing particular momentum in support from women. With Greeks becoming ever more radicalised, the conservative-led government has also clamped down on illegal immigration, detaining thousands in camps and increasing patrols along the country's land and sea frontier with Turkey.

Greek police send crime victims to neo-Nazi 'protectors' | World news | The Guardian

so this is what we've come to

what a difference half a century makes

marine le pen's national front essentially played kingmaker in france's presidential election in may
 
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I'm ashamed of what my home country is becoming.

The EU needs to cut it off already. Feeding the tumor won't make it go away.
 
these right wing fascist supremecists were backed by the USA is the Military coup of the late 1960s and they are supported today by the US fascist Corpocracy

these are inhumane brutal fascists that stormed the Polytechnic University in the last military coup and resulted in 70+ protesting students being killed. One tank also ran through the University gates and crushed students

Notice how quiet the Obama administration is over the suppresion of peoples democratic right to protest?

Same thing is Egypt where the US supported the fascist dictator Mubarak right up to the end.

I also notice that Bahrain has jalied a activist for 3 years for posting a twitter critical of the Bahrain fascist rule

Where is the outrage by the US and the west? The US 5th fleet sits in the Bahrain harbour and everything is fine.

Meanwhile we must focus of ***** Riot who stormed a place of worship and exposed themselves - this is freedom of expression and must be allowed to occur.

Oh the webs of deceit and hypocricy
 
these are inhumane brutal fascists that stormed the Polytechnic University in the last military coup and resulted in 70+ protesting students being killed. One tank also ran through the University gates and crushed students

Cite please.
 
Cite please.

You are unaware of the US sponsored military coup in Greece about 40 years ago?

The Greeks remember and have a national day of mourning every year. Most of the military and political leaders that were found guilty have either rotted in jail or are still there.

A coup that had the blessing of the USA.

Just like the US has propped up countless dictatorships all over the world, especially in the Middle East, Asia and sth America

When the US speaks about democracy and freedom and lectures the world, everybody knows how hollow these words are.

The US mass media wants you defend and focus on the rights of ***** Riot who entered a place of worship and exposed themselves and should be allowed to run free.

Meanwhile in the USA a man is jailed for 28 days for collecting rain water off his own roof top.

Meanwhile in Bahrain where the US has its 5th fleet, a man is jailed for 3 years after being found guilty of posting a twitter that was critical of the US backed fascist Bahrain dictatorship

And let's not mention the call by US senators to execute poor old Julian Assange.

Even the mass media in the USA wants Julian hung. After all .julian did. CNN and Pathetic Fox should pay Julian for doing the investigative journalism that they should have done.

Oh the webs of hypocrisy that the tyranny weaves. Orwell would be proud
 
It appears that you're referring to the seven year coup that was backed by liberal Democrat President Lyndon Johnson?

Don't ever trust or believe the liberals. Wait till you see what Obama is going to do if he gets a second term.
 
It appears that you're referring to the seven year coup that was backed by liberal Democrat President Lyndon Johnson?

Don't ever trust or believe the liberals. Wait till you see what Obama is going to do if he gets a second term.

Why wait?It seems you are implying that you have some information regarding the future,why not just tell us?
 
American students wouldn't be expected to know anything about the Greeek '67-'74 junta because that would reflect unfavorably on liberalism, which has suppressed free speech in America and replaced any historical liberal negativity with revisionist history. If you think the liberals let Greece down, you should see what they've done to the United States! We have no culture, no borders, no language. Our schools teach liberal nonsense, women and minority studies, worship of all things third world. Students who fail to worship the party line are punished with bad grades and ostracism. That is how someone like Obama came to office. That plus open borders which allowed the importation of 80 million foreigners, who's votes are purchased by the liberals with endless welfare programs that other people pay for. Obama's dream for America is that it follows Greece right into the tank.
 
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