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    Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Victorville said violent fights have been breaking out between African-Americans and Latinos for the past two days.

    Rafael Muñoz said a group of people started the fights at Silverado High on Wednesday, which have poured out into the streets.

    “One person started fighting, then the other would jump in. And continuously jump in and (it) ended up to be mob fighting. (I) got pepper sprayed by the security,” he said.

    Cellphone video caught one brawl, which spilled into 14-year-old Jeremy Buenrostro’s lawn.

    “The cops are nowhere to be seen. We’ve been calling them. They took forever. 911 placed people on hold. It was ridiculous,” said [Monica] Rodriguez.

    The San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department deployed cruisers and a helicopter on Thursday to assist with the disturbance on campus.
    Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School « CBS Los Angeles

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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Where does this stem from?

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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    I remember race-based feuds from my high school days. There were three "gangs" that were constantly going at one another. One gang was predominantly black, another Hispanic, and another Laos.

    Once, a guy from the mostly Laos gang did lord only knows what to piss off a member of the mostly Hispanic gang. Shortly there after, a retaliatory member of the Hispanic gang was expelled for repeated violation of anti-violence rules. A few days afterwards, he slipped into the school during first lunch and took a metal pipe to the head of one of the Laos gang members. Kid ended up in the hospital for most of the rest of the year (event took place in the spring time).

    From my observation, I don't think it was about hating the other races. I think it was about hating the other group fighting for dominance. I never heard them using racially offensive terms in reference to one another. It was always some slur involving the gang name, or an offensive bastardization of the other gang's "hand sign". I think the racial grouping was more about common ground than Xenophobia or racial bias. Ultimately, they behaved like a gang: all about power, disruption, control, and "hustling" for money. When you've got three groups vying to be the biggest assholes on campus, it's bound to come to blows.


    Not saying that's what happened in the OP story, of course. Just an anecdote.
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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Racial conflict between African-Americans and Hispanics/Latinos is very, very common at every level - even in politics.

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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

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    Hopefully the students involved are suspended or expelled and arrested and jailed for assault. People who behave in that manner should be jailed.
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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    Typically, when a person uses the phrase 'post-racial America' they're referring to the fact that minorities are not experiencing as much discrimination as they did decades ago. The phrase seemed to get used more especially after the first African-American, Barack Obama, was elected president. Obviously, there are still issues with race in this country; but, I don't think that black and Latino students fighting with each other is a fair gauge of where America stands as far as equality of the races is concerned.


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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I remember race-based feuds from my high school days. There were three "gangs" that were constantly going at one another. One gang was predominantly black, another Hispanic, and another Laos.

    Once, a guy from the mostly Laos gang did lord only knows what to piss off a member of the mostly Hispanic gang. Shortly there after, a retaliatory member of the Hispanic gang was expelled for repeated violation of anti-violence rules. A few days afterwards, he slipped into the school during first lunch and took a metal pipe to the head of one of the Laos gang members. Kid ended up in the hospital for most of the rest of the year (event took place in the spring time).

    From my observation, I don't think it was about hating the other races. I think it was about hating the other group fighting for dominance. I never heard them using racially offensive terms in reference to one another. It was always some slur involving the gang name, or an offensive bastardization of the other gang's "hand sign". I think the racial grouping was more about common ground than Xenophobia or racial bias. Ultimately, they behaved like a gang: all about power, disruption, control, and "hustling" for money. When you've got three groups vying to be the biggest assholes on campus, it's bound to come to blows.


    Not saying that's what happened in the OP story, of course. Just an anecdote.
    Probably not too far off base, Tess.

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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Wow, I thought the police in Detroit were bad when I lived there. They would always respond slowly to this kind of violence. They would just wait until everything was over, then come in and play cleanup.
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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Quote Originally Posted by helix2048 View Post
    Wow, I thought the police in Detroit were bad when I lived there. They would always respond slowly to this kind of violence. They would just wait until everything was over, then come in and play cleanup.
    ... and you think its because the victims were minorities? A lot of the detroit population is black.. including the police.

    Anyway. No.

    Let me introduce you to the concept of: gang-related violence.

    It is a concept the police in the USA apply mostly... and it is a concept that is beginning more and more to permeate European police forces as more and more blacks and arabs come into european countries.

    Gang-related violence is a term used when two or more gangs have done violence to one another with no other collateral victims. Meaning, if 10 people of a certain gang fought with 10 from another gang... the police will stay out of it. It is procedure, and rightfully so. Intervening in any gang-related violence must be done with outstanding amount of force. You need to get a lot of people, very well armed, and there is always the risk of officers dying on the line of duty. So better wait it out. Let them kill themselves and then scoop up the damage. If no innocent (non-gangbanger) is injured, then the entire file is put somewhere away and not given much attention because there are many other crimes where good law-biding citizens have been killed, injured or otherwise prejudiced.

    So the reason they respond late to any gang-related violence is because there is no need to respond early and without massive resources... the response will turn out to be too small to make a proper difference. You can't send 2 cops in a squad car to clear things out. No... you need SWAT and other special forces, trained to fight gangs. They have guns, knifes and may be on God knows what drugs.

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    Re: Riots Break Out Between Black, Latino Students At Victorville School

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I remember race-based feuds from my high school days. There were three "gangs" that were constantly going at one another. One gang was predominantly black, another Hispanic, and another Laos.

    Once, a guy from the mostly Laos gang did lord only knows what to piss off a member of the mostly Hispanic gang. Shortly there after, a retaliatory member of the Hispanic gang was expelled for repeated violation of anti-violence rules. A few days afterwards, he slipped into the school during first lunch and took a metal pipe to the head of one of the Laos gang members. Kid ended up in the hospital for most of the rest of the year (event took place in the spring time).

    From my observation, I don't think it was about hating the other races. I think it was about hating the other group fighting for dominance. I never heard them using racially offensive terms in reference to one another. It was always some slur involving the gang name, or an offensive bastardization of the other gang's "hand sign". I think the racial grouping was more about common ground than Xenophobia or racial bias. Ultimately, they behaved like a gang: all about power, disruption, control, and "hustling" for money. When you've got three groups vying to be the biggest assholes on campus, it's bound to come to blows.


    Not saying that's what happened in the OP story, of course. Just an anecdote.
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