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    nato report, thursday:

    The U.S. troop surge in Afghanistan ended last week. Conditions in Afghanistan are mostly worse than before it began.

    That conclusion doesn’t come from anti-war advocates. It relies on data recently released by the NATO command in Afghanistan, known as ISAF. According to most of the yardsticks chosen by the military — but not all — the surge in Afghanistan fell short of its stated goal: stopping the Taliban's momentum.

    Of course, that’s not ISAF’s spin. The command notes that enemy attacks from January to August 2012 are slightly lower, by 5 percent, from that period last year; and that the past two Augusts show a reduction in attacks of 30 percent. But the more relevant comparison is to 2009, when Afghanistan looked like such a mess that President Obama substantially increased troop levels. And compared to 2009, Afghanistan does not look improved.

    In August 2009, the peak of the fighting season and the height of the internal Obama administration debate over a troop surge, insurgents attacked U.S. and allied troops — using small-arms fire, homemade bombs, mortars and more — approximately 2,700 times. In August 2012, they attacked just shy of 3,000 times.

    In August 2009, insurgents used just under 600 homemade bombs on U.S.-aligned forces. They used just over 600 homemade bombs on U.S.-aligned forces in August 2012.

    The same trend holds for every other month in 2009 compared to every month in 2012 for which there is data: The insurgency launched more attacks this year. In some cases, substantially more: insurgents attacked about 2,000 times in July 2009 and a shade over 3,000 times in July 2012. ISAF registered about 475 attacks from homemade bombs in July 2009; and about 625 in July 2012.
    Military's Own Report Card Says Afghanistan Surge Failed | Wired.com

    and what about all these green vs blue attacks, where the "allies" we train and arm turn those us-supplied guns on our guys and kill em?

    Afghanistan: Green-on-blue attacks show there's no easy way out - CNN.com

    how's afghanization coming along, the entire foundation of obama's exit strategy?

    US suspends joint military operations with Afghanistan after attacks | World news | guardian.co.uk

    why does general allen insist the greens are NOT taliban directed?

    Insider Attacks Don't Threaten U.S. Strategy, Allen Says - Businessweek

    obama/clinton---apology, denial, retreat

    we are losing OBAMA'S WAR which he escalated

    Obama sends 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan - World - CBC News

    pray for our troops

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    Afghanistan cannot be won. It could never be won the place is just too different from us in every regard.

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    yesterday:

    The mother of Tyrone Woods, one of the two former Navy SEALs killed in the Sept. 11 attack on the Benghazi consulate, is speaking out about the slow pace of the investigation into the death of her son and three other Americans.

    "Don't want to ever politicize the loss of my son in Libya, but it has been 16 days and the FBI has yet to get to Benghazi to begin their investigation," Woods's mother Cheryl Croft Bennett wrote on her Facebook page Thursday. "Apparently they have made it to Tripoli but haven't been allowed to enter Benghazi. Meanwhile, the diplomatic outpost where Tyrone and [former SEAL] Glen [Doherty] died, was not and is not secured. Absolutely unacceptable."

    Bennett was apparently referring to reports by CNN and other outlets noting that the FBI team sent to investigate the Benghazi assault has yet to arrive in the city, and the consulate remains unguarded.

    Bennett has been using her Facebook page to disseminate information about the Benghazi attack and talk about her son Tyrone, who was killed in the second wave of the firefight at an "annex" that some reports have called a "safe house" about half a mile from the main consulate building.

    The mission personnel fled to the annex when the main consulate building was set on fire, but the attackers either followed them there or already knew the location. They attacked the annex early in the morning as a security team tried to evacuate the personnel.
    Murdered ex-SEAL's Mother Frustrated By Pace of Benghazi Investigation - FP

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    yesterday:

    “The security at our consulate in Benghazi was obviously inadequate and hindsight is always clearer so we have to say that as a kind of qualifier, but it’s pretty clear now that there was a lot of intelligence coming out that the Benghazi area, eastern Libya was loaded with violent Islamic extremists groups. There had been terrorist attacks,” he said.

    Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, were killed in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Sept. 11. Lieberman said there had been an IED attack outside the consulate in June.

    “There had been an improvised explosive devise that blew outside our consulate in June and there had been attacks on British diplomats there, so looking back, you’ve got to say particularly coming up to September 11th that the security there was inadequate, and that’s why Senator Susan Collins, ranking member on the Homeland Security Committee in the Senate and I have requested that the inspector general at the Department of State do an independent investigation of this whole tragedy at the consulate,” Lieberman said.
    Lieberman Calls for Independent Investigation into Libyan Attack | CNSNews.com

    jiltin joe lieberman, wasn't he someone's wannabe veep?

    that was a long time ago, a much more hopeful time

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