Page 6 of 8 FirstFirst ... 45678 LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 76

Thread: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

  1. #51
    Guru

    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Nevada
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,838

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Oh heavens - we riot and kill people because of who won a ****ing baseball game.

    We're no different - religion just isn't what sets us off.
    That statement is absolute nonsense and can only be characterized as a ludicrous stretch to find an equivalency between a civilized country and one that still rides camels, sodomizes their former leaders and hasn't advanced in centuries.

  2. #52
    Sage
    German guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Berlin, Germany
    Last Seen
    08-24-17 @ 06:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    5,187

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    So, if I am understanding this correctly, a Muslim burns New Testaments, and get charged with blasphemy. Is it just me, or does this make no sense?
    It makes sense, because Islam recognizes Moses and Jesus, among others, as God's prophets. Islam sees Judaism and Christianity as legitimate religions (who have lost the right path, of course, so Mohammed had to put it right again).

    On top of that, Egypt has a large Christian minority (IIRC, ca. 10% of the population), and while discrimination certainly occurs, it is officially a respected religion.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

  3. #53
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Originally Posted by lizzie
    So, if I am understanding this correctly, a Muslim burns New Testaments, and get charged with blasphemy. Is it just me, or does this make no sense?
    What German guy said, plus they're two houses of the same religionious base. Abraham's two sons Ishmael and Issac. Jews believe Issac's line resulted in David (and later Jesus), whereas Muslims believe Ishmael's line resulted in Mohammed.

    Issac was bound by covenent to the Ten Commandments (or seven original) and Ishmael was bound by another covenent that didn't include the thou shalt not murder part (Ishmael couldn't keep to the do not murder part).
    Last edited by clownboy; 09-29-12 at 03:24 PM.

  4. #54
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,324

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    It makes sense, because Islam recognizes Moses and Jesus, among others, as God's prophets. Islam sees Judaism and Christianity as legitimate religions (who have lost the right path, of course, so Mohammed had to put it right again).

    On top of that, Egypt has a large Christian minority (IIRC, ca. 10% of the population), and while discrimination certainly occurs, it is officially a respected religion.
    discrimination? Are you serious?

    At least 16 people have been wounded after Muslims attacked a church and Christian homes in a village near the Egyptian capital, Cairo, officials say.

    The unrest in Dahshur, about 40km (25 miles) south of Cairo, started after a Muslim man died of wounds sustained in an earlier clash on Friday.

    Violence frequently flares between Egypt's Muslim majority and its Coptic Christian minority.

    It is the first instance since Mohammed Mursi took over as president in June.

    In January 2011, a suicide attack on a church in Alexandria killed 24 people.

    BBC News - Coptic-Muslim clashes erupt in Egypt
    Try murder, and crucifixion.

    An Arabic-language video news report from Abu Dhabi-based Sky News Arabia confirms a WND story about the latest method of attack on Christians in Egypt: crucifixions.

    Video report confirms Egyptian crucifixions
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  5. #55
    Sage
    German guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Berlin, Germany
    Last Seen
    08-24-17 @ 06:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    5,187

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    discrimination? Are you serious?



    Try murder, and crucifixion.
    You're right, "discrimination" is an understatement.

    But the point is, Christianity is at least officially a respected religion in Egypt. Hence a Muslim can be punished for blasphemy when he burns a Christian Bible.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

  6. #56
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,324

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    What German guy said, plus they're two houses of the same religionious base. Abraham's two sons Ishmael and Issac. Jews believe Issac's line resulted in David (and later Jesus), whereas Muslims believe Ishmael's line resulted in Mohammed.

    Issac was bound by covenent to the Ten Commandments (or seven original) and Ishmael was bound by another covenent that didn't include the thou shalt not murder part (Ishmael couldn't keep to the do not murder part).
    You and GermanGuy should learn the history between Christians and Islam...

    Despite their common monotheistic roots, the history of Christianity and Islam has been more often than not marked by confrontation rather than peaceful coexistence and dialogue.

    Chapter 2: The Muslim Community in History
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  7. #57
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,324

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    You're right, "discrimination" is an understatement.

    But the point is, Christianity is at least officially a respected religion in Egypt. Hence a Muslim can be punished for blasphemy when he burns a Christian Bible.
    I have no doubt that the punishment is for his crimes against Islam, rather than any desecration of the Christian Bible, New Testament at that. After all, they are crucifying Copts.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  8. #58
    Engineer

    RabidAlpaca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    American in Europe
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:30 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    14,587

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Shall we start burning Egyptian embassies, and consulates? Shall we riot over this?
    Do you consider blasphemy a crime? Do you really believe that burning an embassy would be a good "gotcha back" for someone burning a bible or are you just being facetious?
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

  9. #59
    Sage
    German guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Berlin, Germany
    Last Seen
    08-24-17 @ 06:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    5,187

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I have no doubt that the punishment is for his crimes against Islam, rather than any desecration of the Christian Bible, New Testament at that. After all, they are crucifying Copts.
    The question is who this "they" is. I think we are dealing with very different "theys" when it comes to judges punishing blasphemy and a mob crucifying Copts, respectively.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

  10. #60
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,324

    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    The question is who this "they" is. I think we are dealing with very different "theys" when it comes to judges punishing blasphemy and a mob crucifying Copts, respectively.
    Easy to name. The Muslim Brotherhood has called for these actions to happen.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

Page 6 of 8 FirstFirst ... 45678 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •