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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    So, if I am understanding this correctly, a Muslim burns New Testaments, and get charged with blasphemy. Is it just me, or does this make no sense?
    This is not the first time in Egypt. A blogger was sentenced to three years for portraying both Islam and Christianity in a negative light.

    "Blogger Albert Saber Ayyad was referred on Monday to the Marg Misdemeanor Court on charges of defamation of religion. His trial is set to begin on Wednesday. Ayyad is accused of defaming Islam and Christianity and mocking religious beliefs, rituals and figures. The prosecution alleges that the defendant "promoted his extremist thoughts in speech and writings by creating web pages, including [the] 'Crazy dictator' and 'Egyptian atheists' [pages]."

    Blogger put on trial for insulting religion | Egypt Independent

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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I don't understand the point of threads like this. If you're trying to do cultural comparisons, then there are much more fruitful ways to go about that than asking condescending questions and declaring your superiority over others. I just don't get it. What's the end game?
    The end game? Why what ever do you mean? I am not being condescending at all, I am saying that when considering how we approach the backward ass radicals in the ME, we need to weigh very carefully what considerations we place on our own outrage. IOW, why should we let them get away with their hypocrisy?

    I for one have had it up to my finely chiseled cheek bones with this America is always offensive ****! It's about time we started letting those assholes know that they are more offensive than we could ever hope to be.
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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This is not the first time in Egypt. A blogger was sentenced to three years for portraying both Islam and Christianity in a negative light.

    "Blogger Albert Saber Ayyad was referred on Monday to the Marg Misdemeanor Court on charges of defamation of religion. His trial is set to begin on Wednesday. Ayyad is accused of defaming Islam and Christianity and mocking religious beliefs, rituals and figures. The prosecution alleges that the defendant "promoted his extremist thoughts in speech and writings by creating web pages, including [the] 'Crazy dictator' and 'Egyptian atheists' [pages]."

    Blogger put on trial for insulting religion | Egypt Independent
    Isn't that cute... Defamation of religious beliefs... His sentence was clearly for crimes against Islam, not Christianity.... Just ask the Coptic Christians....
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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    It's about time we started letting those assholes know that they are more offensive than we could ever hope to be.
    Calling them or anyone an "asshole" is a great way to start...

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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Isn't that cute... Defamation of religious beliefs... His sentence was clearly for crimes against Islam, not Christianity.... Just ask the Coptic Christians....
    Thier legal system needs to revamped if they want to take part in the world scene. This law is archaic and does not jibe with the democratic values they claim to be striving for.

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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The end game? Why what ever do you mean? I am not being condescending at all, I am saying that when considering how we approach the backward ass radicals in the ME, we need to weigh very carefully what considerations we place on our own outrage. IOW, why should we let them get away with their hypocrisy?

    I for one have had it up to my finely chiseled cheek bones with this America is always offensive ****! It's about time we started letting those assholes know that they are more offensive than we could ever hope to be.
    So the end game is to "stick it to them" in a sense. Well, I don't really see much benefit in doing that. First, it seems that everyone who tries to do that ends up dead or catalyzing riots that end in other people being dead. Second, the radicals and extremists in the ME just like the radicals and extremists in the United States are irrational as are the people in the ME or elsewhere who generalize about Americans. Therefore, "letting these assholes" know how we perceive them isn't going to do much in the way of progress.

    That said, I admit that I laughed at "finely chiseled cheekbones."

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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The end game? Why what ever do you mean? I am not being condescending at all, I am saying that when considering how we approach the backward ass radicals in the ME, we need to weigh very carefully what considerations we place on our own outrage. IOW, why should we let them get away with their hypocrisy?

    I for one have had it up to my finely chiseled cheek bones with this America is always offensive ****! It's about time we started letting those assholes know that they are more offensive than we could ever hope to be.
    I lol'd!!

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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    First, it seems that everyone who tries to do that ends up dead or catalyzing riots that end in other people being dead.
    Let's just get rid of that pesky 1st amendment thing... it's so bothersome.

    Second, the radicals and extremists in the ME just like the radicals and extremists in the United States are irrational
    Which radicals and extremists in the US stone women to death for being raped? Or behead people that don't believe as they do? I must have missed an MSNBC news story on all of that.
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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    IMHO all of it is silly as hell. One guy burns a religious book and another burns a religious book in retaliation. The good people in between are just doing all they can to distance themselves from the nutters on both sides.

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    Re: Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Let's just get rid of that pesky 1st amendment thing... it's so bothersome.

    Which radicals and extremists in the US stone women to death for being raped? Or behead people that don't believe as they do? I must have missed an MSNBC news story on all of that.
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