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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again, it's you harping on a point that has no foundation. Calling it "truth" does not make it so. There is no right to disrupt.
    There is no right to not be disrupted. There is, however, right to peaceful assembly, association, and redress.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There is no right to not be disrupted.
    Actually, yes, there is law in every jurisdiction that protects against individuals or groups disturbing the peace. That is why such assemblies require a permit - to make room for everyone's rights.

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually, yes, there is law in every jurisdiction that protects against individuals or groups disturbing the peace. That is why such assemblies require a permit.
    There are lots of overreaching laws, including things like "free speech zones" for our conventions in order to curb freedom of expression and protest. That doesn't mean they are rightful laws. You are talking a convenience vs and actual right, and convenience doesn't beat rights.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    OK, then let's be fair about this. Please post the full video (as opposed to the "heavily edited video") so that we can decide for ourselves if this is true. Because it sure looked to me like the officer was leisurely walking down a line of students sitting on the ground and casually pepper spraying them. If I'm wrong about this and it was just some fancy video-editing, let's see your proof.
    Yeah, sorry. I usually post with the stuff I have, but that was done on my phone. Occupy Protesters Blockade UC Davis Police - YouTube There are other full accts, but I'm at work and this is the first one I found. Of course, I could post dozens of the edited ones for every full version shown. Most people don't want the whole story.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Wow, where do I sign up for the next pepper spraying? I'll do it for a 10th of what these students got... who am I kidding, I'll do it for 1/25!

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Fixed.

    "Students will pay The University of California regents to pay about $1 million to 21 UC Davis current and former students who were pepper-sprayed during a peaceful campus protest last November."

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

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    Whereas I believe hatred for LAW & ORDER have no place in ANY civilization.
    Neither fear from LAW & ORDER have place in any civilization...
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement - Yahoo! News

    This is a follow up to one outcome of the highly publicized and discussed on this forum pepper spraying of student protestors.

    It seems a reasonable settlement. Anyone know what they did to the officer?
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I disagree. I also disagree with your characterization of the protesters in this incident. This was a non-permitted assembly that was loud and disruptive, interfering with the other students who are there to gain an education at great personal expense. They were asked many times to disperse, KNEW exactly what would happen if they didn't, and got sprayed. None of them suffered ANY lasting adverse effects.
    The situation at Davis could have been resolved without pepper spraying anyone in the face, as it was in countless other protests at the time. There was no physical threat or stressful circumstance which required the use of force. The illegal and unjustified attack on the protestors exacerbated the situation rather than defusing it. State sanctioned violence is not a tool to be used on people sitting peacefully on the ground, regardless of whether it annoys other people or not.

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement - Yahoo! News

    This is a follow up to one outcome of the highly publicized and discussed on this forum pepper spraying of student protestors.

    It seems a reasonable settlement. Anyone know what they did to the officer?


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