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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    You are entirely missing the point Clownboy. People protest in San Francisco all the time for plenty of stupid reasons and often do annoying things like blocking traffic. If they are too disruptive, they get arrested. None of that is the problem.

    What is utterly unacceptable is pepper spraying a harmless group of individuals sitting on the ground. Inflicting physical violence upon another person is only legal as a defensive measure, not simply because you don't like the people in question.

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

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    Whereas I believe hatred for LAW & ORDER have no place in ANY civilization.
    And yet you disregard law and order when you see fit.

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    These were not some kids sitting there harmlessly. That should be clear. Several students were arrested and these kids were surrounding the officers to make them give up the students, stay forever, or commit violence. They were actively detaining officers to keep them from doing their job.

    There were lots of heavily edited videos trying to make them look like they were just spraying for fun, but that simply isn't true. The full video shows the criminals breaking the law in multiple ways.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    These were not some kids sitting there harmlessly. That should be clear. Several students were arrested and these kids were surrounding the officers to make them give up the students, stay forever, or commit violence. They were actively detaining officers to keep them from doing their job.

    There were lots of heavily edited videos trying to make them look like they were just spraying for fun, but that simply isn't true. The full video shows the criminals breaking the law in multiple ways.
    OK, then let's be fair about this. Please post the full video (as opposed to the "heavily edited video") so that we can decide for ourselves if this is true. Because it sure looked to me like the officer was leisurely walking down a line of students sitting on the ground and casually pepper spraying them. If I'm wrong about this and it was just some fancy video-editing, let's see your proof.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Lot of anti-first amendment folks around here.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Bull****. They weren't just blocking foot traffic. And the whole deal with protesters is to be loud enough to NOT be ignored. You've obviously never been trying to study when the protests are going on.

    And what were they protesting? Anything that had anything at all to do with the school that others were trying to attend for an education? No of course not. About as useless on campus as a drum circle.
    I guess perhaps I have a bit more mental discipline then. People exercising their rights won't get me up in arms and I'll find ways to get my stuff done even with others exercising their rights. Go to the library if you need to study.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    They didn't say how much of it the lawyers got, did they?
    21 students X $30,000 = $630,000 to the students; $370,000 to the attornies + $250,000 awarded to their attorneys separately = $620,000. Not bad.
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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

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    Of course you would, and you would likely categorize any dissent or distrust as "hatred" as well. You only prove my point.
    No. Just dissent that blocks a public location, without a permit or a point.

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And yet you disregard law and order when you see fit.
    True. You know the difference?.... I expect to be accousted, assaulted, beaten, shot, etc... if/when I step outside the law and get caught at it. I understand that potential and I accept it. If the potential response is too problematic for my tastes, I don't step outside the line.

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    Re: UC Davis in $1M Pepper Spray Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You are entirely missing the point Clownboy. People protest in San Francisco all the time for plenty of stupid reasons and often do annoying things like blocking traffic. If they are too disruptive, they get arrested. None of that is the problem.
    They also have permits. And I guarantee you if they are asked to disperse, and don't, they get sprayed too.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    What is utterly unacceptable is pepper spraying a harmless group of individuals sitting on the ground. Inflicting physical violence upon another person is only legal as a defensive measure, not simply because you don't like the people in question.
    Nonsense. Pepper spray is often used when folks don't comply with orders to disperse, INSTEAD OF actual physical violence.

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