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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

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    Actually bad analogy there. It can still be chilly in the summer time.
    That actually doesn't refute my analogy in the least.

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    In any case I would bet that I could find just as many people as that "study" of yours has and come up with a different conclusion. Provided I had the time and money to do it of course. Studies can be rigged.
    Have at it.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

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    That actually doesn't refute my analogy in the least.
    Sure it does. If you don't accept facts that are undisputable then that isn't my problem.

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    Have at it.
    Gimmie the money.
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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sure it does. If you don't accept facts that are undisputable then that isn't my problem.
    In my experience people on debate forums who lay claim to some monopoly on "facts" or "critical thinking" have the least intention of using them. You haven't stated any facts, you've only proved that there can be exceptions to the whole. I've yet to hear of a behavioral study where 100% of the observed subjects had the same reactions to the same stimuli, so your claim that your papa spanked you and you turned out fine was not only painfully predictable, but doesn't do jack to refute the overall studies I linked to.

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    Gimmie the money.
    Or you could spend five frigging minutes to google it yourself. Sweet Jebus, don't be so lazy!

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    In my experience people on debate forums who lay claim to some monopoly on "facts" or "critical thinking" have the least intention of using them. You haven't stated any facts, you've only proved that there can be exceptions to the whole. I've yet to hear of a behavioral study where 100% of the observed subjects had the same reactions to the same stimuli, so your claim that your papa spanked you and you turned out fine was not only painfully predictable, but doesn't do jack to refute the overall studies I linked to.
    My point in that was to show you that your analogy was a bad one. But I'm sure you knew that didn't you? No where have I claimed that that study...or any study showed 100% of the observed subjects had the same reactions. Its been my experiance that those that try and twist what is said have no intention of honestly debating.

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    Or you could spend five frigging minutes to google it yourself. Sweet Jebus, don't be so lazy!
    Perhaps you missed what I said. I said that I could take the same amount of people as what is in your study and come to a different conclusion as that study...if I had the money and time to do so. IE I would do the same amount of work. A 5 minute google search is irrelevent to my statement.

    And btw...since when is offering to do the same amount of work as what was put into your study considered "lazy"? Comparatively speaking spending 5 mins on google would be less work than offering to conduct the same kind of study...so how is it "lazy"?
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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

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    Texas district’s new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, female students - The Washington Post



    "Yeah, yeah," you might be thinking while rolling your eyes. "Texas." But then I came across this later in the article.



    Boy, just when you think you know your own country.
    Nothing wrong with paddling kids who misbehave. To many kids a suspension,time out and other similar punishments are just free vacations.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    My point in that was to show you that your analogy was a bad one. But I'm sure you knew that didn't you? No where have I claimed that that study...or any study showed 100% of the observed subjects had the same reactions. Its been my experiance that those that try and twist what is said have no intention of honestly debating.



    Perhaps you missed what I said. I said that I could take the same amount of people as what is in your study and come to a different conclusion as that study...if I had the money and time to do so. IE I would do the same amount of work. A 5 minute google search is irrelevent to my statement.

    And btw...since when is offering to do the same amount of work as what was put into your study considered "lazy"? Comparatively speaking spending 5 mins on google would be less work than offering to conduct the same kind of study...so how is it "lazy"?
    That's really not necessary, Kal'Stang. All you really need to do is submit your own study to American Psychologist. You could title it something snappy like "My daddy whooped me and ah turned out fine." Actually that would be the entirety of the study, but you know what they say about brevity!

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's really not necessary, Kal'Stang. All you really need to do is submit your own study to American Psychologist. You could title it something snappy like "My daddy whooped me and ah turned out fine." Actually that would be the entirety of the study, but you know what they say about brevity!
    Again, give me the money and i'll do the study.
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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

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    Again, give me the money and i'll do the study.
    I'm telling you, you don't need to. You've obviously got all the research you need.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    There is a difference between paddling and "copping a feel". Paddling is done with an implement, on a covered bottom. End of story.
    My mistake. So this guy just gets off on paddling female students. That's assuming you are right though I have to wonder why there ever would have been a stipulation against opposite gender discipline if no real physical contact was involved. Either way, two violations of the policy before they made it pedo friendly should at least result in a suspension without pay and a very close look into his behavior past and future involving female students. Wanna bet he votes Republican?

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'm telling you, you don't need to. You've obviously got all the research you need.
    Actually I do. 37 years worth of living from one end of the country to the other meeting tons of different people and knowing their life. Of course like you others will just term it "ancedotal evidence" for the simple fact that it doesn't coincide with thier personal belief system. They would rather listen to someone with a paper in a frame and an agenda and maybe a years worth of work than their own life experiances (or someone elses life experiances).
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