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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Would it be wrong for the teachers to be "paddled" if they misbehave? What is the moral difference between using violence to punish a 17 year old student and a 25 year old teacher?
    The 25 year old is an Adult, legally. The 17 year old is still a child. Therefore, the only authority the 25 year old is universally answerable to is the Government.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    It should be the kids choice with a release from the parents already on file.
    If not then, the kids choice as agreed to by the parent.

    I missed the bus one day. Walked 10 miles to school, I was late. Choice between detention and licks. I chose licks.
    That's an option, I suppose. Another option would be to pay attention to behavioral studies that find long term psychological damage in young children due to corporal punishment.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's an option, I suppose. Another option would be to pay attention to behavioral studies that find long term psychological damage in young children due to corporal punishment.
    Again, if the parents take care of it at home it shouldn't be an issue at school. I never feared getting in trouble at school. I feared the response of my parents after I got HOME much more. Especially at the Middle School and High School level, where most of the instructors I had knew my father personally.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Again, if the parents take care of it at home it shouldn't be an issue at school. I never feared getting in trouble at school. I feared the response of my parents after I got HOME much more. Especially at the Middle School and High School level, where most of the instructors I had knew my father personally.
    Thank you for your non-sequitur.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    I tell you one thing.

    Any teacher lays a finger on my kid in this manner, they better ****ing call the National Guard cause I'm goin Seal Team 6 on their asses.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The 25 year old is an Adult, legally. The 17 year old is still a child. Therefore, the only authority the 25 year old is universally answerable to is the Government.
    I asked what the moral difference is, not the legal one though there are plenty of legal rights that extend to adults and children alike.

    Anyway, public school teachers are employed by the government so the question still stands - would it be morally or legally legitimate for public schools to introduce punishment beatings for misbehaved staff in exactly the same way they do for misbehaved students? If it's such an effective and important measure, why shouldn't it be extended to adults too?

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The 25 year old is an Adult, legally. The 17 year old is still a child. Therefore, the only authority the 25 year old is universally answerable to is the Government.
    Good, so let's go Heinlein-style public lashings as punishment for crimes.
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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I tell you one thing.

    Any teacher lays a finger on my kid in this manner, they better ****ing call the National Guard cause I'm goin Seal Team 6 on their asses.
    Whereas the fact that they can't/don't is part of the reason no child of mine would ever go to a public school.

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I asked what the moral difference is, not the legal one though there are plenty of legal rights that extend to adults and children alike.

    Anyway, public school teachers are employed by the government so the question still stands - would it be morally or legally legitimate for public schools to introduce punishment beatings for misbehaved staff in exactly the same way they do for misbehaved students? If it's such an effective and important measure, why shouldn't it be extended to adults too?
    I wouldn't have a problem with the teachers being disciplined as well, though I believe we both know that the legal system and their union would never stand for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Good, so let's go Heinlein-style public lashings as punishment for crimes.
    That works for me, spud.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Whereas the fact that they can't/don't is part of the reason no child of mine would ever go to a public school.
    You should never be allowed to reproduce.

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    Re: Texas districtís new policy allows educators of either gender to paddle male, fem

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Young children are the ones you really want to avoid using corporal punishment on as it leads to behavioral problems later in life. There is a link between non-abusive corporal punishment and antisocial tendencies later on, as well as increased risk of substance abuse.

    Study links physical punishment of kids to adult mental disorders

    Also...



    Causes and Effects of Child Abuse - Corporal Punishment - Children, Parents, Spanking, and Studies

    Decreased cognitive abilities is hardly the result anyone wants from sending their children to school.
    I think you'll find that corporal punishment in itself doesn't lead to anti-social behaviour because not all kids whose parents use corporal punishment exhibit anti-social behavior. There are usually a variety of factors on top of the coporal punishment that lead to anti-social behavior. How it is administered, the makeup of the person who is administering, how the kid is generally treated by their parents, the relationship between the parents, the respect and love shown between parent and child, etc., etc., There are plenty of kids with anti-social behavior that never recieved a spanking. As for the school administering it, that is kind of a dicey situation. It probably shouldn't exist in public schools generally speaking. There is not enough support for it and a level of trust between school personnel and parents for it to be effective.
    It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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