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Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

notquiteright said:
Higgens-
ever since the US vetos any UN sanctions... Israel is even more susceptible to sanctions than Iran, it is the USofA keeping that wolf from the door.
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Israel receives its sancations for good reasons just as Iran does! They are both countries who do what they want when they want.
 
Agreed, and Israel has the USofA to block any sanctions from being enforced. Israel should already be under economically crippling sanctions but we block any effective action.
 
notquiteright said:
Agreed, and Israel has the USofA to block any sanctions from being enforced. Israel should already be under economically crippling sanctions but we block any effective action.
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Show me a veto that blocked something.
 
Go to the jewish virtual library for a rather complete list of USofA vetoes concerning Israel.
 
ecofarm said:
Show me a veto that blocked something.
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notquiteright said:
Go to the jewish virtual library for a rather complete list of USofA vetoes concerning Israel.
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Moderator's Warning:
Yes you are correct, all U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel can be found there.

Just a heads up for anyone else who might be tempted to take up Ecos offer. I suggest you refrain from discussing them here. The vetoes listed from 1972 deal with issues relating to the Israel/Palestine situation and this is not the correct forum for those discussions. All posts specific to I/P are only allowed in the ME forum. Thanks.
 
Misterveritis said:
Iran has been killing Americans and the Brittish for years with medium-tech shaped charge roadside bombs in Iraq.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Shaped bombs magnify Iraq attacks

Then there are the cyber attacks that are ongoing. The most recent ones are in the news today.
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What were American soldiers doing in Iraq? Oh yea they were geting rid of Iran's mortal enemy and handing the country over to Iranian puppets. I'm so glad we lost all those lives for that.
 
iguanaman said:
What were American soldiers doing in Iraq? Oh yea they were geting rid of Iran's mortal enemy and handing the country over to Iranian puppets. I'm so glad we lost all those lives for that.
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I find that rather narrow, short sighted and wrong. And '05ish. The Iranian regime is fixin' to be puppetin' nothin'.
 
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ChrisL said:
Sanctions aren't successful because China and Russia never want to participate.
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Sanctions are working in Iran.. They have been on gas rationing since 2007.

They can't sell their oil at their break even point of $117 pr barrel so half their tanker fleet is being used for storage. What oil they are selling is deeply discounted.
 
sharon said:
Sanctions are working in Iran.. They have been on gas rationing since 2007.

They can't sell their oil at their break even point of $117 pr barrel so half their tanker fleet is being used for storage. What oil they are selling is deeply discounted.
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Bull Sharon. You know the sanctions would be MUCH more effective if China and Russia participated more actively, which they don't.
 
ChrisL said:
Bull Sharon. You know the sanctions would be MUCH more effective if China and Russia participated more actively, which they don't.
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Iran is in a world of hurt, Chris.
 
Let's face it, Iran is one of the most hostile nations towards the U.S. We here in the U.S. are getting sick and tired of hearing all the crap they spew all the time. A poor excuse for a country that oppresses women, kills it's own citizens when they try to rise up against the tyranny, human rights violators, death to America chanters, supporters of terrorism. Let me just say that I would trust Israel over Iran ANY DAY.
 
ChrisL said:
Hmmm, doesn't seem to stop them from being petulant asses, does it?
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No... they certainly are a pain in the rear.. and if you look at a map, its amazing to me WHY they are so impossible. They have everything going for them.. most importantly a very prosperous future.

Instead, it looks to me like they are swimming for the drain.
 
sharon said:
No... they certainly are a pain in the rear.. and if you look at a map, its amazing to me WHY they are so impossible. They have everything going for them.. most importantly a very prosperous future.

Instead, it looks to me like they are swimming for the drain.
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Why do you think that is Sharon?
 
ChrisL said:
Why do you think that is Sharon?
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I am clueless.

They announced in April that they will build a canal between the Capsian Sea and the Persian Gulf.. Very ambitious, but probably not legal.

They are in the catbird seat to move oil and gas from the Caspian and the Stans to the Persian Gulf, Port Gwadar and on to India and Pakistan... and China.

They make NO sense to me.. Israel just isn't that important.
 
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sharon said:
I am clueless.

They announced in April that they will build a canal between the Capsian Sea and the Persian Gulf.. Very ambitious, but probably not legal.

They are in the catbird seat to move oil and gas from the Caspian and the Stans to the Persian Gulf, Port Gwadar and on to India and Pakistan... and China.

They make NO sense to me.. Israel just isn't that important.
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They are to Iran apparently. That's what hatred gets you.
 
ChrisL said:
They are to Iran apparently. That's what hatred gets you.
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Does it make sense to you? Iran has a rather large and ancient Jewish community, 600 churches, excellent universities and Med Schools, WHY in Sam Hill would they give a rat's behind about Israel?
 
sharon said:
Does it make sense to you? Iran has a rather large and ancient Jewish community, 600 churches, excellent universities and Med Schools, WHY in Sam Hill would they give a rat's behind about Israel?
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Because of hatred Sharon. Most of the Jews have left Iran, and you KNOW that. Iran is a country led by rulers who are patriarchal, tyrannical and full of hate and loathing. They DO NOT like Jews Sharon. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
 
ChrisL said:
Because of hatred Sharon. Most of the Jews have left Iran, and you KNOW that. Iran is a country led by rulers who are patriarchal, tyrannical and full of hate and loathing. They DO NOT like Jews Sharon. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
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That doesn't make sense either.. Jews have lived in Persia for 2500 years and would still be there if not for Israel..

Look:

In July 2007, Iran's Jewish community rejected financial emigration incentives to leave Iran. Offers ranging from 5,000–30,000 British pounds, financed by a wealthy expatriate Jew with the support of the Israeli government, were turned down by Iran's Jewish leaders.[

Persian Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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