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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I agree but that has to do more with checking China in the region than taking sides between India & Pakistan
    that.... and the fact that India has the plausibility to be a realistic partner, whereas Pakistan is always dancing on the edge of whirling chaos and disaster.

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    The decision to invade Iran was made beforehand just like Iraq. We are being sold a bill of goods that our leaders like Obama and Hillary are fair and just, and are supposedly weighing all the options, supposedly taking loss of life into account, and supposedly using all means to avoid wars including diplomacy before they begin bombings in Syria, Libya or Iraq. That is just a lie. These politicians are acting directly in unision to carry out the policy of the Council on Foreign Relations, an organization connected with the U.S. State Dept., which serves the interests of Big Oil, not the American people. To that end, as well as others, Obama and Clinton do not serve the public, at all, they serve lobbyists and corporations,and are on the take, like common corrupted criminals.



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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    The US is clear, the Iranian regime will not be allowed to get nukes. The only question at this point, barring the regime cooperating, is how much war.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Pakistan already has some fairly democratic structures. Influence of the British




    but PNAC's basic thrust, that America's interests are best served when aligned with her beliefs, remains as true today as it was when they formed in the late 90s.
    i really cant understand this point of view. no benefit can justify the colonizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i really cant understand this point of view. no benefit can justify the colonizations.
    I don't know about justification - but when we are looking at net benefit, then that is indeed what we see - and you are free to ask all the Indian women who did not get hurled on the burial funerals of their husbands for the past few decades about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I don't know about justification - but when we are looking at net benefit, then that is indeed what we see - and you are free to ask all the Indian women who did not get hurled on the burial funerals of their husbands for the past few decades about it.
    this is a justification..if so why do you show respect to the islamist morons in egypt and say " they want islamism." you know usa supported those islamists for so called spring. i think this westerner democracy has no backbone,and dances in every style according to the conditions
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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i really cant understand this point of view. no benefit can justify the colonizations.
    Washington really wants to weaken Pakistan by putting puppets like Afghanistans Karzai in the govmnt and by destablizing it with drones and militants.

    The Pakistan threat of "nukes and terrorists" like the mantra for Iran is a phony cover story the U.S, uses, because they want a puppet installed there as well, so Western multinationals can assume control over the oil.
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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Any Iranian attack on anything would be a suicide move for it. They are bluffing.

    And if not, they'll get crushed instantly, so why should it even matter? Maybe they'll try to block the Strait of Hormuz? NATO can sink their entire navy in a few hours.

    No need for us to get our knickers in a twist because some crazy dictator is rambling on about jihad.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    Any Iranian attack on anything would be a suicide move for it. They are bluffing.

    And if not, they'll get crushed instantly, so why should it even matter? Maybe they'll try to block the Strait of Hormuz? NATO can sink their entire navy in a few hours.

    No need for us to get our knickers in a twist because some crazy dictator is rambling on about jihad.
    I hope you are right. Remember that we are dismantling our military. The one term Marxist appears to agree with the Jihadists that America is the greatest threat to peace. Disarming us prepares us for a better class of dhimmitude.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I hope you are right. Remember that we are dismantling our military. The one term Marxist appears to agree with the Jihadists that America is the greatest threat to peace. Disarming us prepares us for a better class of dhimmitude.
    Dismantling our military? Please...

    Obama has increased defense spending every year he's been in office.
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