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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I do like Netanyahu. If he ran for president of this country he would have my vote.
    With the one term Marxist's example I think it could fly. After all, the Marxist did not have to prove he was a natural born citizen.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I do like Netanyahu. If he ran for president of this country he would have my vote.
    With the one term Marxist's example I think it could fly. After all, the Marxist did not have to prove he was a natural born citizen.
    Bibi only got 22% of the vote in Israel and has a 30% approval rating.

    What has he ever accomplished?

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Bibi only got 22% of the vote in Israel and has a 30% approval rating.
    What has he ever accomplished?
    To begin with he thinks rightly.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you should read again my posts ,or improve your english

    cpwill tried to own all kind of democratic values as the biggest inventions of the west.no ,not every freedom belongs to the west.thats what I mean.YES I know we gained lots of westerner modern values after the revolution.but it doesnt mean we are modern by means of the west..you all know your number one west colonized this world ,thats why they dislike turks ,we are the only one to whom they couldnt do this thing

    Actually I like the Turks. And I think they will find that they are very happy in the long run that they didn't tie themselves to the EU - the sick man of europe is now the entire southern half of europe. But that doesn't mean that I'm not going to pretend like the notion that sovereignty flows upward from the people to the government wasn't a Western invention, nor the political structures of governance built to match that notion.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    think tanks dont work for pakistanis
    Pakistan already has some fairly democratic structures. Influence of the British




    but PNAC's basic thrust, that America's interests are best served when aligned with her beliefs, remains as true today as it was when they formed in the late 90s.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Pakistan already has some fairly democratic structures. Influence of the British

    but PNAC's basic thrust, that America's interests are best served when aligned with her beliefs, remains as true today as it was when they formed in the late 90s.
    All the Pakistani folks I know here in the US all say that the biggest problem is the graft. They have told me stories of very successful people being driven out of business or out of the country by the unending shake downs by local officials. They say the same parts of the country that give the US pause are the same parts of the country that scare the bejeezes out of them too, but that most of the country would be open to America and the US. That is why doctors will come to the US to become cab drivers. Their only main gripe with the US is that we are so disproportionally on the side of India in the region and, according to them, the Indians are pretty harsh toward the Pakistanis just as people independent of the national political stuff.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Dont you people know Obama is a working class hero, black man who would NEVER slaughter the innocent?

    Libya, Syria and Iran want to be liberated.

    (NOT!)

    Don't you people watch Jon Stewart?

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    US elections conceal preparations for war with Iran

    by Barry Grey

    "The American ruling class has a long history of organizing wars of aggression behind the backs of the American people. President Lyndon Johnson ran for election in 1964 pledging to avoid a major war in Vietnam, even as he was planning to escalate the US intervention. He notoriously told the military brass, “Just let me get elected, and then you can have your war.”

    "In the 2000 presidential election, plans for an attack on Iraq were concealed by both Bush and Gore. In the 2002 mid-term election, the Democrats made a calculated decision, despite broad popular opposition to Bush’s war plans, not to discuss the advanced preparations for an invasion.

    "In 2008, Obama postured as an anti-war candidate, and proceeded once in office to continue the war in Iraq, expand the carnage in Afghanistan and extend US military aggression and subversion to Pakistan, Libya and Syria."


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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Dont you people know Obama is a working class hero, black man who would NEVER slaughter the innocent?

    Libya, Syria and Iran want to be liberated.

    Don't you people watch Jon Stewart?

    "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain,"
    -the Wizard of Oz

    US elections conceal preparations for war with Iran

    by Barry Grey

    "The American ruling class has a long history of organizing wars of aggression behind the backs of the American people. President Lyndon Johnson ran for election in 1964 pledging to avoid a major war in Vietnam, even as he was planning to escalate the US intervention. He notoriously told the military brass, “Just let me get elected, and then you can have your war.”

    "In the 2000 presidential election, plans for an attack on Iraq were concealed by both Bush and Gore. In the 2002 mid-term election, the Democrats made a calculated decision, despite broad popular opposition to Bush’s war plans, not to discuss the advanced preparations for an invasion.

    "In 2008, Obama postured as an anti-war candidate, and proceeded once in office to continue the war in Iraq, expand the carnage in Afghanistan and extend US military aggression and subversion to Pakistan, Libya and Syria."


    US elections conceal preparations for war with Iran
    Just buy some defense stocks, then you'll realize that there's a good side to war.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    All the Pakistani folks I know here in the US all say that the biggest problem is the graft. They have told me stories of very successful people being driven out of business or out of the country by the unending shake downs by local officials. They say the same parts of the country that give the US pause are the same parts of the country that scare the bejeezes out of them too, but that most of the country would be open to America and the US. That is why doctors will come to the US to become cab drivers. Their only main gripe with the US is that we are so disproportionally on the side of India in the region and, according to them, the Indians are pretty harsh toward the Pakistanis just as people independent of the national political stuff.
    I'd buy that bit on the corruption. Indian government is pretty bad, too. But unfortunately for them I'm thinking that US long term interests lie with India.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I'd buy that bit on the corruption. Indian government is pretty bad, too. But unfortunately for them I'm thinking that US long term interests lie with India.
    I agree but that has to do more with checking China in the region than taking sides between India & Pakistan

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