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Thread: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Says you Sharon. Sorry, I would trust him more than the Mullahs or Ahmed ANY DAY.
    Read Van Creveld.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    CAMBRIDGE – Israel is daily ratcheting up its threats to attack Iran over its nuclear program. Unfortunately, these threats have come to overshadow more pressing events in Syria, which is the epicenter of a regional crisis that will determine the future of the Arab Spring, as well as Iran’s role in the Middle East.

    Hands On Syria, Hands Off Iran by Martin van Creveld and Jason Pack - Project Syndicate

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    lol

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What were American soldiers doing in Iraq? Oh yea they were geting rid of Iran's mortal enemy and handing the country over to Iranian puppets. I'm so glad we lost all those lives for that.
    Point one: you agree with me that Iran has been killing Americans and Brits in Iraq.
    Point two: Whether you believe the Iraq war was a good war or a bad war is not relevant to point one.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Sanctions aren't successful because China and Russia never want to participate.
    So the correct answer is "No, sanctions are never successful."

    :-)
    Last edited by Misterveritis; 09-28-12 at 02:53 PM.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Point one: you agree with me that Iran has been killing Americans and Brits in Iraq.
    Point two: Whether you believe the Iraq war was a good war or a bad war is not relevant to point one.
    What else could they say? Who would they blame since the neo-cons were telling the people that it would be over in a month and we would be welcomed as liberators..

    So suddenly it Iran and Al Qaeda to blame.

    Read Creveld.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Sanctions are working in Iran.. They have been on gas rationing since 2007.

    They can't sell their oil at their break even point of $117 pr barrel so half their tanker fleet is being used for storage. What oil they are selling is deeply discounted.
    What are the sanctions for? Are they accomplishing their objective?

    I think you may discover that sanctions cause hardships for the subjects but do not prevent the regime form accomplishing its goals.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Let's face it, Iran is one of the most hostile nations towards the U.S. We here in the U.S. are getting sick and tired of hearing all the crap they spew all the time. A poor excuse for a country that oppresses women, kills it's own citizens when they try to rise up against the tyranny, human rights violators, death to America chanters, supporters of terrorism. Let me just say that I would trust Israel over Iran ANY DAY.
    . . . and most nights. :-)

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    I said, "Point one: you agree with me that Iran has been killing Americans and Brits in Iraq.
    Point two: Whether you believe the Iraq war was a good war or a bad war is not relevant to point one."

    To which you replied:

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    What else could they say? Who would they blame since the neo-cons were telling the people that it would be over in a month and we would be welcomed as liberators..

    So suddenly it Iran and Al Qaeda to blame.

    Read Creveld.
    Please review points one and two again. The Iranians have been attacking and killing us in Iraq for a very long time.
    Your feelings about the war have nothing whatever to do with point one.

    I have several of his books. Supplying war among them.

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    Re: Iran is heating up . . . [W:259]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    . . . and most nights. :-)
    You aren't trusting "Israel".. you are trusting Bibi.

    Hands On Syria, Hands Off Iran by Martin van Creveld and Jason Pack - Project Syndicate

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