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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I do not think it is cultural. I believe the rioters and killers were lawless lunatics. There were laws in place that made their actions criminal in nature.
    May be not cultural ... but oh boy! so many rioters and killer and lunatics ..... far too many.... all the time making trouble..... all the time... the world is getting tired

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    My issue personally is far less with the Obama administration and far more with those who suggested free speech should be abridged, thus my comment.

    I don't expect Obama to come out and say anything about this, because I didn't particularly feel there should've been a need or purpose to say anything about the movie in the first place and there'd be even LESS of a reason to say anything about this.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Obama's silence is this instance could have been interpreted as as endorsement to these irrational and crazed people. No matter what he or any president would have done it would have been wrong in someone's eyes.
    Then instead of taking an apologetic stance, he should have defended freedom of expression, based on principle alone.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If their goal was to piss off those who practice Islam, it seems to me they wouldn't be criticizing Obama, they'd be saying "keep up the good work"
    First of all there's a difference between the Muslim population at large and those who took to the streets.

    Secondly you're assuming the folks that did take to the streets are rational in thought.

    To them, film made in USA = USA Government, USA President, USA Embassy etc.

    The Obama administration is doing what's called damage control. Sure it's going to piss some of you off. But in the annals of history it's a small price to pay.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    May be not cultural ... but oh boy! so many rioters and killer and lunatics ..... far too many.... all the time making trouble..... all the time... the world is getting tired
    Yes. It seems that every morning, when I turn on the news, and see new protests in the ME, supposedly about an idiotic film which offended them, I understand why they were ruled by dictators for so long.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My issue personally is far less with the Obama administration and far more with those who suggested free speech should be abridged, thus my comment.

    I don't expect Obama to come out and say anything about this, because I didn't particularly feel there should've been a need or purpose to say anything about the movie in the first place and there'd be even LESS of a reason to say anything about this.
    The Obama administration distanced itself from that movie for the same reason any administration with any kind of ****ing understanding of the words "foreign policy nightmare" would.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Obama's silence is this instance could have been interpreted as as endorsement to these irrational and crazed people. No matter what he or any president would have done it would have been wrong in someone's eyes.
    worst job in the world sometimes I do not envy it. We can chat on here how any president should of done this or done that but at the end of the day we could never imagine being in that position, something I think many posters overlook.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes. It seems that every morning, when I turn on the news, and see new protests in the ME, supposedly about an idiotic film which offended them, I understand why they were ruled by dictators for so long.

    Second and third that!!!!!!

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    May be not cultural ... but oh boy! so many rioters and killer and lunatics ..... far too many.... all the time making trouble..... all the time... the world is getting tired
    I am tired as well this senseless killing. However, I have to focus on who did this and not why they did this. There are the authorities and the law which apply to these rioters and killers who are the ones to hunt down and kill not the average person who is simply trying live their life.

    One of the SEALs that dies was there specifically to trackt down the people who had some weapons and then inform his group who would have killed these people. That is what I am talking about, not the killing of innocents.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Then instead of taking an apologetic stance, he should have defended freedom of expression, based on principle alone.
    I agree.......

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