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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    I take Andres Serrano, the artist, at his word when he claims that the photograph"alludes to a perceived commercializing or cheapening of Christian icons in contemporary culture." Piss Christ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Somehow if that was true then he should do the same thing to the quran.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, you sound so compassionate when you refer to the deceased Ambassador, as "the poor Ambassador".... I can almost hear the dripping disdain for your having to acknowledge that.
    Not to defend her or anything, because many of her comments are so biased and ridiculously one-sided towards radical Islam as to make me wince every time I read her posts, but on the subject of Ambassador Stevens she's had nothing but good things to say.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Somehow if that was true then he should do the same thing to the quran.
    Why? He making an observation about the religion he grew up in.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Freedom of Speech, regardless of who's feelings get hurt. People like this can only "offend" you if YOU allow them to, and when you do allow them to, it only adds fuel to their fire because that is EXACTLY the reaction they want. I just think of them as foolish, ignorant and misguided idiots.
    I'm not excusing vandalism or anything else. I just think that tacking on a "but it's really a compliment" is BS. It is what it is, and that's disgusting and offensive. A feces splattered flag claiming to actually be a compliment to the US because we don't do it right would be just as offensive with the explanation (perhaps even less without).

    "Jesus is in the piss because of you, Christian" does not make it better or any less offensive.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Why people cannot be consistent in their views is beyond me. Anybody who has even the tiniest degree of intellectual honesty should be capable of applying the "smell test" to this situation, and by doing so, they would avoid all the double standards they are applying here. Why the hard left shows antipathies towards Christianity while acting as apologists for Islam is anybody's guess, but if people cannot be consistent in the principles they apply, they are nothing but double talking hypocrites.

    PissChrist was obviously insulting to Christians just as the movie was to Muslims, and rationalizing that this photograph was "art" as a way to justify the hypocrisy just doesn't cut it. One could just as easily call the stupid movie "art" so as to justify the reverse bias. Unless the person who created PissChrist was born yesterday, there is just no way he could have not known his photograph was offensive. What kind of fool would believe he couldn't have known it was? In a similar fashion, the movie maker knew his film was insulting to Muslims.

    Just apply the same standards, folks. All this b.s. being offered to justify your double standards doesn't pass the smell test. All you have to do is act with a reasonable degree of intellectual honesty and you would understand that.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Just so ya"ll know Serano has received death threats over Piss Christ:

    death threat serano piss christ - Google Search

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yeah, that's conspiracy theories for ya. After a while the only thing that matters is shifting the spooky plot around, pretending like it makes sense. The only thing missing with these darn things is some good ol' fashioned heresy accusations like the Romans, Catholics, the French, and the Protestants used to pull out...like, hmm...pissing on the crucifix (wink wink), cursing the Lord's name, engaging in homosexual orgies, and eating babies. Have to have each of those to make it stick, ya know?
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Why people cannot be consistent in their views is beyond me. Anybody who has even the tiniest degree of intellectual honesty should be capable of applying the "smell test" to this situation, and by doing so, they would avoid all the double standards they are applying here. Why the hard left shows antipathies towards Christianity while acting as apologists for Islam is anybody's guess, but if people cannot be consistent in the principles they apply, they are nothing but double talking hypocrites.

    PissChrist was obviously insulting to Christians just as the movie was to Muslims, and rationalizing that this photograph was "art" as a way to justify the hypocrisy just doesn't cut it. One could just as easily call the stupid movie "art" so as to justify the reverse bias. Unless the person who created PissChrist was born yesterday, there is just no way he could have not known his photograph was offensive. What kind of fool would believe he couldn't have known it was? In a similar fashion, the movie maker knew his film was insulting to Muslims.

    Just apply the same standards, folks. All this b.s. being offered to justify your double standards doesn't pass the smell test. All you have to do is act with a reasonable degree of intellectual honesty and you would understand that.
    The Piss Christ was destroyed by French Christians last year.

    "The piece caused a scandal when it was exhibited in 1989, with detractors, including United States Senators Al D'Amato and Jesse Helms, outraged that Serrano received $15,000 for the work, part of it from the taxpayer-funded National Endowment for the Arts"

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Why people cannot be consistent in their views is beyond me. Anybody who has even the tiniest degree of intellectual honesty should be capable of applying the "smell test" to this situation, and by doing so, they would avoid all the double standards they are applying here. Why the hard left shows antipathies towards Christianity while acting as apologists for Islam is anybody's guess, but if people cannot be consistent in the principles they apply, they are nothing but double talking hypocrites.

    PissChrist was obviously insulting to Christians just as the movie was to Muslims, and rationalizing that this photograph was "art" as a way to justify the hypocrisy just doesn't cut it. One could just as easily call the stupid movie "art" so as to justify the reverse bias. Unless the person who created PissChrist was born yesterday, there is just no way he could have not known his photograph was offensive. What kind of fool would believe he couldn't have known it was? In a similar fashion, the movie maker knew his film was insulting to Muslims.

    Just apply the same standards, folks. All this b.s. being offered to justify your double standards doesn't pass the smell test. All you have to do is act with a reasonable degree of intellectual honesty and you would understand that.
    American Liberals aren't the ones burning down embassies and killing diplomats. I haven't heard a big outcry except from the extremists here to have it banned.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The Piss Christ was destroyed by French Christians last year.
    That was one print of it. The beautiful thing about photos is that they can be reproduced.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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