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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    That is true. But it's also true that the message is delivered by actually pissing on the image of Christ. I could definitely see Christians dismissing the message because it's delivered in such a disrespectful manner.

    Irony doesn't automatically make something demand respect.
    I agree. No matter how you look at it, the insult to modern day Christians couldn't be more clear. I'm not saying it deserves respect, all I'm saying is that it's always better to know what you're actually being insulted about. If only to craft a suitable response and avoid lending more credence to the initial irony.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I just do not understand this crap.

    Honestly, only comes from people who have a beef with Muslims.

    Certainly J-mac and you do.

    How the hell is it an apology, for the government to say "Hey We don't endorse a Islam being mocked in this manner" because the United States has a great deal more to gain by saying such a thing than they have to gain from ignorant islamophobes who associate the few violent muslims with the rest of them.

    That's then taken by far right wingers as "Apologizing to terrorists" when he's turning them into chicken Tika using drones every other week.

    I don't even know what universe you people live in... honestly.

    This isn't about apologies, this is about you being pissed off that there aren't more people sticking it to Islam because you have a problem with it, Obama administration in particular.
    Tell how all this deference has helped?
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Tell how all this deference has helped?
    It sure helped in Libya........... as well as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    It sure helped in Libya...
    It did? Tell the family of Chris Stevens that...
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It did? Tell the family of Chris Stevens that...
    The Libyans and their government have attackd the terrorists and caused two militias to disband......

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    My ilk? That's nice. I'll look into the "message" it wants to portray, but then again that doesn't invalidate anything I've said in my original post.
    Who cares what the artist is trying to say? It's disgusting and offensive on its face. I could create a picture of the US flag with sht all over it and claim it's about people hurting the US - and that doesn't really change the obvious message. The artist's appeal to exclusionist cults only makes it more lame.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The Libyans and their government have attackd the terrorists and caused two militias to disband......
    SOME Libyans have countered the attacks in Benghazi. I feel for show. After all the military style storming, burning, and take over of a US consulate and the killing of American diplomats is an act of war. Some in that region still know that the people can force the feckless, coward President to act in ways they won't like. But, all in all Obama has tipped a weak hand to our enemies.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    SOME Libyans have countered the attacks in Benghazi. I feel for show. After all the military style storming, burning, and take over of a US consulate and the killing of American diplomats is an act of war. Some in that region still know that the people can force the feckless, coward President to act in ways they won't like. But, all in all Obama has tipped a weak hand to our enemies.
    Obama is just smarter than th average bear.

    We aren't weak.. The idea is to play to win .......

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Obama is just smarter than th average bear.

    We aren't weak.. The idea is to play to win .......
    If you think that Ambassadors dying, and Embassy's being taken over with enemy flags being hoisted is winning, then you have a real problem understanding the concept IMHO.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you think that Ambassadors dying, and Embassy's being taken over with enemy flags being hoisted is winning, then you have a real problem understanding the concept IMHO.
    You are inventing lies again.

    All this has happened since the poor Ambassador was killed.

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