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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I had a feeling you'd have SOMETHING to say to me in this thread X.

    You'd have to point specifically as to which "joke" you're talking about.

    Because often times when far right conservatives make their "jokes" they're not funny.... like at all. And don't get on my ass about that statement I said far right, not run of the mill conservatives.
    We could probably save time if you could point to any jokes about liberals that you think is actually funny. Stop being so overly sensitive. If someone's saying something just to be funny, it's idiotic to be offended.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Thanks for judging me considering you know everything about my Christian faith and how I try and live my life according to my Biblical beliefs. This thread isn't about me or "pop culture" Christians that you have an issue with.

    Anyways, back to the topic of the thread. No one should stop this art from being put on display, anyone (most likely conservatives) that do are hypocritical in their disliking of the Obama administrations apologetic nature for the film offensive to Muslims and requests to take it out of media. The Piss Christ should stay, the Muhammad movie should stay, and anyone that commits crimes in regards to their inability to control themselves or be civil when offended should be punished and be solely accountable for their own actions.
    The main controversy in the US in 1987 with regard to Piss Christ was that the exibition was paid for by the National Endowment for the Arts.

    U.S. Government Pays for "Piss Christ" Art

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you now? Which ones? And that's exactly the point of the artwork. You arbitrarily pick and choose what to believe in just like you've been taught by pop culture christianity. I'd be willing to bet you think homosexuality is an abomination but have no problem with eating shrimp. I bet you ignore the old testament when it suits you. All this is to say that you're a pop culture christian because what you practice and what has been practiced as christianity for the past 2000 years are two completely different things. You are a product of televangelism, megachurches and neo-protestants. You are a product of materialist sociology and HBO. If you don't want to hear that, it's fine with me but let's not sit here and pretend your version of christianity isn't a watered down version of what people have practiced for centuries.
    You put the "mental" in judgmental. Lol (nobody can get mad 'cause it's just a joke).

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you now? Which ones? And that's exactly the point of the artwork. You arbitrarily pick and choose what to believe in just like you've been taught by pop culture christianity. I'd be willing to bet you think homosexuality is an abomination but have no problem with eating shrimp. I bet you ignore the old testament when it suits you. All this is to say that you're a pop culture christian because what you practice and what has been practiced as christianity for the past 2000 years are two completely different things. You are a product of televangelism, megachurches and neo-protestants. You are a product of materialist sociology and HBO. If you don't want to hear that, it's fine with me but let's not sit here and pretend your version of christianity isn't a watered down version of what people have practiced for centuries.
    Wow, and Christians are always being called judgemental.

    However I think the real important part of this "art work" is being missed by just about everyone...

    And that is that Andres Serrano really REALLY R E A L L Y needs to start drinking more water.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    The most interesting part of this whole Piss Christ controversy is that those who feel offended by it are being offended for the wrong reason. They think their religion or their Lord is being "pissed on", when what the artist intended to convey was that many modern Christians do exactly that every freaking day. They piss on Christ's message and on what's at the very core of their religion at every turn.

    Anyhoo, I for one was very disappointed with the Obama administration's lack of emphasis on defending freedom of speech after that anti-Mohammed movie came out. That should have been first and foremost in all official statements by the President and Sec of State. I totally understand the need for damage control and to distance the US government from it all, but the main message should still have been "we don't like what they have done, but we'll defend to the death their right to do it". Same logic applies to this Piss Christ thing.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    The most interesting part of this whole Piss Christ controversy is that those who feel offended by it are being offended for the wrong reason. They think their religion or their Lord is being "pissed on", when what the artist intended to convey was that many modern Christians do exactly that every freaking day. They piss on Christ's message and on what's at the very core of their religion at every turn.

    Anyhoo, I for one was very disappointed with the Obama administration's lack of emphasis on defending freedom of speech after that anti-Mohammed movie came out. That should have been first and foremost in all official statements by the President and Sec of State. I totally understand the need for damage control and to distance the US government from it all, but the main message should still have been "we don't like what they have done, but we'll defend to the death their right to do it". Same logic applies to this Piss Christ thing.
    The ISSUE re: Piss Christ is that the exhibit was funded by the National Endowment for the Arts. The government paid for it.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The ISSUE re: Piss Christ is that the exhibit was funded by the National Endowment for the Arts. The government paid for it.
    That's not offensive. That is a political issue. I was talking about those people who are offended by the image itself and what they think it represents, not about those who have a beef with how it was funded.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    That's not offensive. That is a political issue. I was talking about those people who are offended by the image itself and what they think it represents, not about those who have a beef with how it was funded.
    That was the issue in 1987.. A few Muslims picketed.. Piss Christ has been attacked repeatedly in its European and Australian tours.. Finally destroyed by Christians in France last year.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    That was the issue in 1987.. A few Muslims picketed.. Piss Christ has been attacked repeatedly in its European and Australian tours.. Finally destroyed by Christians in France last year.
    Either way, the OP is not about any of that. It's about what official stance if any the White House should release in regards to Christians taking offense at the image.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    The most interesting part of this whole Piss Christ controversy is that those who feel offended by it are being offended for the wrong reason. They think their religion or their Lord is being "pissed on", when what the artist intended to convey was that many modern Christians do exactly that every freaking day. They piss on Christ's message and on what's at the very core of their religion at every turn.
    That is true. But it's also true that the message is delivered by actually pissing on the image of Christ. I could definitely see Christians dismissing the message because it's delivered in such a disrespectful manner.

    Irony doesn't automatically make something demand respect.

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