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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What aspect? The false claim that Obama is a Muslim? Hmm, red herring is red herring I guess.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The great thing about DP is that we, as posters, can raise issues and other posters who may have both the knowledge and ability to respectfully enlighten us about various facts without the need to browbeat, castigate and attempt to shame. In any case this seems to be a closed issue as a great deal of information has been communicated in a such a way as to truly inform without inflaming a situation.
    Oh save the preaching for somebody who cares. The thread has absolutely nothing to do with Muslims, Obama or even Obama being a Muslim. So either she was trolling or throwing out bull**** red herrings she wasn't planning on defending. Which is it?
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh save the preaching for somebody who cares.
    Your statement has the same effect as if you told me to "shut up". I do not respond to disrespectful behavior.



    Enjoy the rest of you time in this thread...

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Your statement has the same effect as if you told me to "shut up". I do not respond to disrespect.

    Enjoy the rest of you time in this thread...
    You can play victim all you want when you don't want to answer with any honesty. Good thing she never came back to defend any of her claims. Considering that and Mya's thanking of your posts, birds of a feather.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    May be not cultural ... but oh boy! so many rioters and killer and lunatics ..... far too many.... all the time making trouble..... all the time... the world is getting tired
    This may be more true than we realize.

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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Obama should never apologize for the Piss Christ, neither should he apologize or try to remove the movie that made fun of Muhammad. Freedom of speech means freedom for all and I don't want him apologizing for either. I am disgusted by the Piss Christ and find it extremely offensive. For me, the act of Jesus dying for my sin was the strongest act of love by God ever expressed, and for someone to mock that by having him pissed on while dying for all humanity greatly offends me and does make me mad. I am offended by it, but then again I have no right to not be offended (and neither does anyone else). It's also their "art" and their speech and I wouldn't take away their right to do so or kill anyone over it just as no one should take away my right to do so or kill me for my speech/art.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Obama should never apologize for the Piss Christ, neither should he apologize or try to remove the movie that made fun of Muhammad. Freedom of speech means freedom for all and I don't want him apologizing for either. I am disgusted by the Piss Christ and find it extremely offensive. For me, the act of Jesus dying for my sin was the strongest act of love by God ever expressed, and for someone to mock that by having him pissed on while dying for all humanity greatly offends me and does make me mad. I am offended by it, but then again I have no right to not be offended (and neither does anyone else). It's also their "art" and their speech and I wouldn't take away their right to do so or kill anyone over it just as no one should take away my right to do so or kill me for my speech/art.
    Another person who doesn't understand the image at all. I wish you'd spend less time being offended and more time actually understanding it.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Another person who doesn't understand the image at all. I wish you'd spend less time being offended and more time actually understanding it.
    Is it wrong that I'm offended? Me "understanding" the image or not doesn't invalidate anything I've said above.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Is it wrong that I'm offended?
    You're offended for the wrong reasons. The image isn't attacking Christ. It's attacking the way in which people have destroyed his message. So it's not attacking him, it's attacking you and your ilk. Chuckberry said it best:

    I think the image is well composed and has a soft quality that makes the crucified Christ look even more tragic than it would out of the urine. The lighting particularly is well chosen. To me, the photo says that the sacrifice of Christ on the cross retains its dignity, perhaps it is even enhanced, by the degradation and marginalization of the crucifixion in popular culture.
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    Re: Controversial 'Piss Christ' art back in NY

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Is it wrong that I'm offended? Me "understanding" the image or not doesn't invalidate anything I've said above.

    I agree with you digsbe.... I am offended too

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