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Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

guess we should stop buying their oil then...
Good idea. Drill here. Drill now. Build a thousand nuclear power plants. Become energy independent.
Build the XL pipeline. Buy fuel from friends. Toss the Marxist out of the White House and stop bankrupting the coal industry.

You are on the right track.
 
your kidding right? Your not suggesting that we should destroy their holy sites? Please tell me this is a joke
Did it seem that I was joking?
We should create and publicize the list. If Islamists kill an American we scratch the top listed Islamic holy site. Repeat as necessary. If four Americans are killed by Islamists then the top four remaining sites should be utterly destroyed.

We need to spank them. Hard. They need a thousand year time out.
 
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Did it seem that I was joking?
We should create and publicize the list. If Islamists kill an American we scratch the top listed Islamic holy site. Repeat as necessary. if four Americans are killed by Islamists then the top four remaining sites should be utterly destroyed.

We need to spank them. Hard. They need a thousand year time out.

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I wrote, "If Catholics were out cutting off peoples heads, instigating and participating in homicide bombings, and in general behaving in socially unacceptable ways then a thousand year time out might just be the thing. "

This was a response to someone who wanted to know how I felt about blowing up the Vatican.

I continued, "Islam needs a break from the real world for a few hundred years."

What does that mean.
Islam has no part in a civilized world. They need a time out to sit in their corner of the world and figure out how to tame themselves.

I also wrote, "Or maybe we could send then some attractive women so the men have something besides death to think about."
What does that mean.

Make love, not war.
 
He has been suggesting exactly that. He seems to think that the Muslims would somehow see the error of their ways and become non Muslims if we were to destroy their holy sites.

Maybe you can figure out the logic behind that idea. I can't.
In war one takes away thee things most valuable to one's enemy.

If we obliterate their holy sites the people will see that their god, Allah is either a myth or a sissy. Why follow either one?
 
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Every genocide in history has been justified with the logic of "The world would be a better place without THOSE people".

People like you sicken me.
Do you think blowing up a shard from a meteor is going to cause a genocide? I suppose you oppose punishing criminals too.

Have you ever considered that you may be projecting a bit too much of your thinking onto others? I intend no harm to anyone. But I do think taking away their political-religious toys will do Islam a great deal of good.
 
In war one takes away thee things most valuable to one's enemy.

If we obliterate their holy sites the people will see that their god, Allah is either a myth or a sissy. Why follow either one?

We are not at war with Islam, repeat, not at war with Islam!
 
We are not at war with Islam, repeat, not at war with Islam!
Perhaps that is the problem. Islam, pushed hard by the Islamofascists, have been at war with us for at least 50 years.

When do you think we will catch on?
 
Perhaps that is the problem. Islam, pushed hard by the Islamofascists, have been at war with us for at least 50 years.

When do you think we will catch on?

We caught on that the "Islamofascists", or extremist jihadists, were at war with us about 9/11/01. Had we caught on sooner, we might have been able to prevent that attack.
 
Every genocide in history has been justified with the logic of "The world would be a better place without THOSE people".

The world probably would have been better off without Fascists, Nazis, Communists, Racists, and various forms of other wild-eyed mass murdering fanatics.
 
Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi - CNN.com

'Bout time to see some moderate Muslims push back against the extremism. I am very, very glad to see this.

I don't understand the surprise here, they have been doing this in Pakistan for years.


Maybe I didn't word it correctly but I believe the extremists are the minority. The minority who always want to dictate the lives of others.

They also make better television.
 
Perhaps that is the problem. Islam, pushed hard by the Islamofascists, have been at war with us for at least 50 years.

When do you think we will catch on?

Wake up and see the world for what it is, the world isn't so simple as to simply say an entire religion is at war with the United States. Hell Islam as a whole isn't even controlled by a single person, group, set of beliefs, etc. Are you telling me that the Muslim family living in my neighborhood is at war with this country? Perhaps the members of a Muslim community in China or Morocco?

And the last 50 years? What exactly happened in the 60s that you would consider to be the start of it all?
 
A gutsy thing for them to do. They are putting themselves at great risk.
 
Wake up and see the world for what it is, the world isn't so simple as to simply say an entire religion is at war with the United States. Hell Islam as a whole isn't even controlled by a single person, group, set of beliefs, etc. Are you telling me that the Muslim family living in my neighborhood is at war with this country? Perhaps the members of a Muslim community in China or Morocco?

And the last 50 years? What exactly happened in the 60s that you would consider to be the start of it all?

The entire Muslim world is not at war with the West and this has been stated ad nauseum by folks who seem to thing they are announcing this insight for the first time, that others haven't yet recognized this obvious point. Not all Germans were Nazis, not all Fascists were Italian. I think we all know that.

But the people who wanted no part of these ideologies, or war, came under the control of those who gained power and did want their particular ideology foisted on others. No one wanted to live under a Communist regime but that didn't prevent those in more powerful positions from enforcing Communism on them, just as we see many Islamic leaders forcing their brand of Islam on people who would ordinarily just want to get along with their lives, probably like your neighbors.

The fact is that radical Islam is out there and something must be done to control it.
 
A gutsy thing for them to do. They are putting themselves at great risk.

Certainly more gutsy than those Americans who want to arrest the film maker in California or who would scrap their Constitution. They might as well join the Islamofascists now.
 
Glad to hear that this happened. :)
 
The entire Muslim world is not at war with the West and this has been stated ad nauseum by folks who seem to thing they are announcing this insight for the first time, that others haven't yet recognized this obvious point. Not all Germans were Nazis, not all Fascists were Italian. I think we all know that.

But the people who wanted no part of these ideologies, or war, came under the control of those who gained power and did want their particular ideology foisted on others. No one wanted to live under a Communist regime but that didn't prevent those in more powerful positions from enforcing Communism on them, just as we see many Islamic leaders forcing their brand of Islam on people who would ordinarily just want to get along with their lives, probably like your neighbors.

The fact is that radical Islam is out there and something must be done to control it.

You said Islam has been at war with us for 50 years, I'm just trying to figure out who that means exactly. If not every Muslim then who? Just the radicial ones? Not even all the radical ones are violent against the United States. And if you mean just the radical Muslims, why not say that instead of saying Islam? You also didn't answer my question about your 50 year timeline, what happened in the 60s that started this war with Islam?

You also underestimated the appeal of some of these schools of thought, communism came to Russia and China for example because it was extremely popular. Of course they had to kill a lot of people along the way, but the majority of their followers came willingly. A leader whether he's religious or whatever else has to have some honest true appeal to some people otherwise he'll be in no position to force those who don't join willingly.

I agree radical Islam is something to be stopped, but even that term isn't specific enough, who are we talking about exactly?
 
You said Islam has been at war with us for 50 years,

That wasn't me as i'd put it it at 40 years, since the Munich Olympics and the plane hijackings. Since then the tactics have changed but the goals remain similar.
I'm just trying to figure out who that means exactly. If not every Muslim then who? Just the radicial ones? Not even all the radical ones are violent against the United States. And if you mean just the radical Muslims, why not say that instead of saying Islam? You also didn't answer my question about your 50 year timeline, what happened in the 60s that started this war with Islam?

In fact we don't know who these Muslims are. That should be clear after 40 years. if we did know who they are it would make things a lot easier, wouldn't it? What we do know that there is terrorism emanating from the Islamic community but often have no idea which Muslims these might be as they don't often announce their intentions. We can see them holding up signs throughout the western world announcing their hate, or acting it out, and then going home to their families and jobs. Sometimes they rape, murder and destroy when they get upset. I think we're all familiar with the pattern by now.
You also underestimated the appeal of some of these schools of thought, communism came to Russia and China for example because it was extremely popular.

Huh?Where did you get that idea?? People have always been trying to escape from Communist countries and more then 100,000,000 people have died at the hands of communists. Where do you get your information???

Of course they had to kill a lot of people along the way, but the majority of their followers came willingly.

Incredible!
A leader whether he's religious or whatever else has to have some honest true appeal to some people otherwise he'll be in no position to force those who don't join willingly.

Of course there have been many Hitlers throughout history, and Hitler wannabes. This is why we have to stand up against them rather than appease them, a la Neville Chamberlain, H. Clinton, and B. Obama.
I agree radical Islam is something to be stopped, but even that term isn't specific enough, who are we talking about exactly?

What more information do you require? How would you describe the people who are murdering innocents going about their business, children on their way to school, children in kindergarten, housewives with their children, people waiting in bus stops or teenagers sitting in a restaurant, shooting a nun in the back, slitting the throats of innocent workers, raping women, stoning women, performing clitorectomies on women, commandeering planes into buildings, or having their own children and handicapped children used as suicide bombers. The list could go on indefinitely but maybe you get the idea.

The connection between all these horrors is Islam. What would you call these people? There are a great many adjectives which could be used.
 
That wasn't me as i'd put it it at 40 years, since the Munich Olympics and the plane hijackings. Since then the tactics have changed but the goals remain similar.

You don't understand history if you think the Munch Massacre was an attack on the US, or the West in general. Munich was an attack by a terrorist group by the name of Black September, named after the day in September when the King of Jordan declared martial Law in Jordan over the Palestinian areas of the country due to a revolt which itself was caused by mistreatment of the Palestinians by the Arabs. In 1967 Israel dominated in the the 6 day war which, among other things, gave Israel total control of the West Bank which has a large Palestinian population. Across the border from the West Bank is Jordan where many refugees from that conflict fled, and already had a large Palestinian population, by 1970 they had over strained the infrastructure and pressed against the native Jordanians who didn't like all these foreigners around who attempted to implement control of movement on the Palestinians, keep them in camps, etc. This resulted in a Palestinian revolt and crack down by Jordan, which led to a bloodbath because the Palestinians were caught between Israel and Jordan, both hostile to them.

Nothing about that terrorist's groups origin is religiously motivated, they are nationalistic in their goals and their violence towards Israel is motivated by issues of land. Israelis displaced many Palestinians in their post independence expansion and their violence is about returning to what they believe is their rightful home, it has nothing to do with the fact that the Israelis are Jews and most Palestinians are Muslim. In fact their Operation in Munich was named after two CHRISTIAN Palestinian villages that were wiped out during the Israeli war of independence by an Israeli militia. The Israelis actually managed to evacuate most of the population before the operation, however after the villages were destroyed they simply left thousands of people without any resources to simply wander out into the land. It was a horrible event but resources were stretched thin.

In fact we don't know who these Muslims are. That should be clear after 40 years. if we did know who they are it would make things a lot easier, wouldn't it? What we do know that there is terrorism emanating from the Islamic community but often have no idea which Muslims these might be as they don't often announce their intentions. We can see them holding up signs throughout the western world announcing their hate, or acting it out, and then going home to their families and jobs. Sometimes they rape, murder and destroy when they get upset. I think we're all familiar with the pattern by now.

That's the problem with talking about "who they are," there is no "they." Radical Islam exists in many forms and many groups who have different groups, if you try to lump a group like Black September and Al-Qaeda in the same category you'll find you can only do it when you ignore everything that makes them different.

Huh?Where did you get that idea?? People have always been trying to escape from Communist countries and more then 100,000,000 people have died at the hands of communists. Where do you get your information???

The Communist movements in Russia and China were revolutions, not coups, they had wide enough support among the people to overthrow the government. They were very popular movements at the their beginning, however of course they became quite unpopular as time went on.

What more information do you require? How would you describe the people who are murdering innocents going about their business, children on their way to school, children in kindergarten, housewives with their children, people waiting in bus stops or teenagers sitting in a restaurant, shooting a nun in the back, slitting the throats of innocent workers, raping women, stoning women, performing clitorectomies on women, commandeering planes into buildings, or having their own children and handicapped children used as suicide bombers. The list could go on indefinitely but maybe you get the idea.

The connection between all these horrors is Islam. What would you call these people? There are a great many adjectives which could be used.

What are you talking about? I'd describe people like that as horrible sick individuals, whats your point?
 
We caught on that the "Islamofascists", or extremist jihadists, were at war with us about 9/11/01. Had we caught on sooner, we might have been able to prevent that attack.
True. So why did the Obama Administration suck up to Islamists and beat down Israel?

Why did the one term Marxist allow an ambassador and three others be murdered by Islamists?
 
True. So why did the Obama Administration suck up to Islamists and beat down Israel?

Why did the one term Marxist allow an ambassador and three others be murdered by Islamists?

I don't know. I didn't even know he was in office when the attacks occurred.
 
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