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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Don't do that Ditto, I have more respect for you than that....Don't embarrass yourself like this...
    So, it "wouldn’t be surprising” (according to Dick Cheney) "if interrogation techniques authorized by President Bush provided critical intelligence that led to bin Laden’s death."

    It wouldn't be surprising, and there is evidence for are two very different phrases. Further, consider the source: Cheney was one of the prime movers behind the invasion of Iraq and an adamant supporter of tor.. I mean "enhanced interrogation."
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, it "wouldn’t be surprising” (according to Dick Cheney) "if interrogation techniques authorized by President Bush provided critical intelligence that led to bin Laden’s death."

    It wouldn't be surprising, and there is evidence for are two very different phrases. Further, consider the source: Cheney was one of the prime movers behind the invasion of Iraq and an adamant supporter of tor.. I mean "enhanced interrogation."
    I can not believe that you are discounting the work done by dedicated CIA, and Special Forces persons of the US Ditto.

    You need to read this.

    The path to Osama bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama - The Washington Post
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I can not believe that you are discounting the work done by dedicated CIA, and Special Forces persons of the US Ditto.

    You need to read this.

    The path to Osama bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama - The Washington Post
    Gosh, yet another opinion piece on the opinion page.

    What hard evidence is there that Bin Laden's whereabouts were known before Obama took office? What hard evidence is there that interrogations authorized by Cheney/Bush actually led to his being killed?

    and, if his whereabouts were known before Obama took office, why didn't Bush authorize a strike?

    Sure, there is a lot of credit to be given: The people who found out where he was, the seals (especially the seals).

    But Bin Laden should have been taken out soon after the attacks on the WTC, and the war in Iraq (which was not really related to the attack) should not have happened.

    And yes, that's an opinion too.
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Gosh, yet another opinion piece on the opinion page.

    What hard evidence is there that Bin Laden's whereabouts were known before Obama took office? What hard evidence is there that interrogations authorized by Cheney/Bush actually led to his being killed?

    and, if his whereabouts were known before Obama took office, why didn't Bush authorize a strike?

    Sure, there is a lot of credit to be given: The people who found out where he was, the seals (especially the seals).

    But Bin Laden should have been taken out soon after the attacks on the WTC, and the war in Iraq (which was not really related to the attack) should not have happened.

    And yes, that's an opinion too.

    Ditto, you are hung up on the knowledge of Bin Laden's exact position before the attack. I don't think I said that the Bush administration said they knew where exactly he was before Obama took office, however, without the CIA finding out who the courier was for OBL, and the continuing work of the CIA to exploit that informant, and the information they had prior to Obama taking office, OBL would not have been found.

    If you think otherwise, then tell me what extraordinary things the Obama administration did to uncover where he was? Instead, your playing any word game you can to deny that the Bush administration did positive things to find him.

    This opinion piece you are so quick to dismiss, is from the head of that unit during the time when the information was gathered, so I think I'll take his opinion over your denial. :
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ditto, you are hung up on the knowledge of Bin Laden's exact position before the attack. I don't think I said that the Bush administration said they knew where exactly he was before Obama took office, however, without the CIA finding out who the courier was for OBL, and the continuing work of the CIA to exploit that informant, and the information they had prior to Obama taking office, OBL would not have been found.

    If you think otherwise, then tell me what extraordinary things the Obama administration did to uncover where he was? Instead, your playing any word game you can to deny that the Bush administration did positive things to find him.

    This opinion piece you are so quick to dismiss, is from the head of that unit during the time when the information was gathered, so I think I'll take his opinion over your denial. :
    That's because his opinion matches yours, not because any hard evidence has been provided to show that finding Bin Laden had anything to do with the "enhanced interrogation" or anything else done three or four years before he was finally taken out.

    I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, necessarily, just that there is no evidence to support it.

    As for Obama, if he were really a softie, apologizing to the radical Muslims, not being strong and all that, would he have given the OK to take out that weasel?
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's because his opinion matches yours, not because any hard evidence has been provided to show that finding Bin Laden had anything to do with the "enhanced interrogation" or anything else done three or four years before he was finally taken out.

    I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, necessarily, just that there is no evidence to support it.

    As for Obama, if he were really a softie, apologizing to the radical Muslims, not being strong and all that, would he have given the OK to take out that weasel?

    Ofcourse he would have given the order...Can you imagine the backlash had Obama pulled a Clinton?
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ofcourse he would have given the order...Can you imagine the backlash had Obama pulled a Clinton?
    Maybe, but there wasn't so much of a backlash when Bush declared that finding Bin Laden was not a concern of his.
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Maybe, but there wasn't so much of a backlash when Bush declared that finding Bin Laden was not a concern of his.

    *sigh* must we constantly go back and rehash old tired talking points that have been proven wrong from liberals about this over and over? You don't like Bush....We get it! Good for you that he can't run again. If you think that Bush just gave up looking for OBL ever, then you need to just stop it already....That's silly.
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    *sigh* must we constantly go back and rehash old tired talking points that have been proven wrong from liberals about this over and over? You don't like Bush....We get it! Good for you that he can't run again. If you think that Bush just gave up looking for OBL ever, then you need to just stop it already....That's silly.
    Well, he did say what I quoted, and he didn't find OBL in 8 years in office.

    Mostly, I dislike bush for having started two wars, but then, that's a subject for another thread.
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    Re: Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi [W:57]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Well, he did say what I quoted
    Sure, out of context. Aren't you guy's the ones so into context?

    and he didn't find OBL in 8 years in office.
    Wow, if your Lord, and Savior Obama is so great, then why'd it take him almost his entire first term?

    Mostly, I dislike bush for having started two wars, but then, that's a subject for another thread.
    Yet, you continually are bringing it in here to deflect from your boy's failure as a President....Weak.....
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