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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Maybe we don't enjoy helping terrorists as much as you.
    Your foreign policy indicates otherwise.

    Too bad there's not another Osama Bin Laden for Obama to kill.

    “If I convened a meeting with Muslim leaders around the world to discuss how they can align themselves against terrorism …,” he said, “I’d do so with the credibility of someone who has lived in a Muslim country. All these things can make a difference.”
    I guess he was wrong about this, eh?

    Despite Obama’s background and deliberate outreach to the Islamic world, international opinion polls have not found an improvement in America’s standing in the eyes of Muslims.

    On a contrary, a major Pew Global Attitudes Project survey last June found that in four key Muslim countries – Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon – U.S. favorability ratings were even lower in 2012 than they were in 2008, the last year of a Republican administration accused in some Muslim circles of having “declared war on Islam” after 9/11.

    Out of 14 countries included in the overall survey, only four were Muslim. And those were the only four that produced lower scores under Obama than under President Bush in 2008.
    Similarly, a Zogby International poll in mid-2011 found that favorable views of the U.S. had dropped by more than half in six Arab countries over two years, from an average 33 percent in 2009 to 15 percentin 2011. The countries were Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, the United Arab Emirates, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia.
    The NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released Tuesday found the president’s foreign policy approval among registered voters at 49 percent, down from 54 percent one month earlier.

    “The fall was steeper among independents, going from 53 percent in August to 41 percent,” NBC reported.
    Obama

    So much for appeasement...

    I guess foreign policy is now a factor in the 2012 election.
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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Of course its criminal... The violence is inexcusable.

    But, let's make a distinction between terrorists and protestors.

    I think think its probably healthy and forward progress for Arabs to protest what they disagree with.

    Do you see what I mean? The goal is civic participation. That's the beginning of organic democratic process... and I think it empowers the people and the government to go after the renegades and stop them.

    Remember I lived in Libya briefly when Idris was king and Libya had an enlightened constitution.
    I had made a distinction in my previous posts and you responded with "this is NOT the case in Muslim lands".....now you wish to make my position your position.....not happening here.

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I had made a distinction in my previous posts and you responded with "this is NOT the case in Muslim lands".....now you wish to make my position your position.....not happening here.
    I happen to like these people of Libya, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia... because I have spent time around them..

    And I am not willing to throw the baby out with the bath water. I am an old broad who was taught from 1950 to represent the US as an ambassador.

    Do you understand the concept of good will and hands off?

    As an American in the ME I would NEVER undermine US policy with sloppy talk.

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    How funny.. Our goverment had NOTHING to do with that film, yet you think that Muslim terrorists represent ALL Muslims and their governments. Stupidity isn't confined to one ethnicity or a single creed.
    If they had nothing to do with the film why are they mentioning it at all?

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Of course.. In our country you can say ANYTHING.. Like Rush claiming that men's genitals are shrinking because of women.

    This is NOT the case in Muslim lands.
    No, in Muslim lands its the women's genitals which are being tampered with, and parts disappearing.

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    You are NOT a Muslim... American culture is NOT the same as culture in Libya..
    American culture is NOT the same as culture in Libya?

    What an insight!!

    Hands up those who thought it was~!!!

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I happen to like these people of Libya, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia... because I have spent time around them..

    And I am not willing to throw the baby out with the bath water. I am an old broad who was taught from 1950 to represent the US as an ambassador.

    Do you understand the concept of good will and hands off?

    As an American in the ME I would NEVER undermine US policy with sloppy talk.
    You past several posts including this one have been unresponsive to mine. You are undermining this discussion with "sloppy talk".

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    First, any idiot would know the US Government had nothing to do with the making of that film, even Muslims across the world. Second, the White House released statements picked up by news agencies across the world condemning the film. By paying for a video ad that cost $70,000 in tax payer contributions to make himself look good in a Muslim community is just more appeasement of the Muslim community.

    Since he became POTUS his pandering to Muslims have showed his weakness as a world leader. They don't like or respect him anymore than they did before. Now look at the results.

    But hey, what's money to the 6 trillion dollar man?
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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What's that odor?
    It's US liberal foreign policy, lies from the White House, and those who support it stinking up the place. I'm surprised you can smell it.

    After almost one week of blaming the terrorist attack of a US Consulate in Libya and the killing of the American ambassador on an obscure YouTube.com video and denying a terrorist connection to the attack, the President Barack Obama, the White House and the Obama administration on Thursday and Friday slowly changed their tune with a near-perfect example of a political flip-flop
    "The Obama administration were certain that most of the mainstream news media would echo the 'party line' but they weren't able to prevent people such as Fox News Channel's top national security correspondent, Catherine Herridge, who exposed the deceitful comments emanating from the White House and the State Department," said former U.S. Marine scout-sniper and NYPD sergeant Harold McCallister.
    Obama White House flip-flops on embassy attack in Libya - National Law Enforcement | Examiner.com
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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The obama administration's pathetic attempt to say the killings of our US ambassador and others was just a random protest is falling apart. This was an Alquiada terrorist attack and as the facts come out obama will be forced to admit his foreign policy in the mid east has failed. Can't blame this one on Bush.

    "U.S. officials told The Wall Street Journal on Friday that they are investigating indications that a local group of Libyan militants, Ansar al Sharia, held a series of conversations Tuesday with al Qaeda extremists about the assault that day on the consulate, in the first sign of possible coordination in the attack between local fighters and the global terrorist movement."

    "The crowd of several hundred Libyans overran the consulate Tuesday night, shooting a hail of bullets and grenades and overwhelming the lightly guarded compound before allegedly setting fire to the main buildings where American staff lived and worked. U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and a second diplomat, Sean Smith, died in the fire."

    Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack - WSJ.com


    "Considering the fact that many Americans expressed grave concerns when President Obama first talked about his plans to close Guantanamo Bay (and to house and try suspected Al Qaeda operatives on U.S. soil instead), it is understandable why the White House might sit on that information.
    The Obama administration would not want Americans to know that an ex-Gitmo detainee, released on his watch, might have been involved in the brutal deaths of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three of his staff."

    Fox News, Arab News beat White House, State Dept. in Libya investigation - National Criminal Profiles | Examiner.com


    If it comes out that a terrorist that Obama released from GITMO was instrumental in this attack, BYE BYE OBAMA!

    I think it was pretty much shown from Day 1 on these threads that AQ were behind the attack. For as mentioned the taking out of Al-Libi a massively important propaganda asset for AQ, was the motive.*
    I've argued that point out on a few threads.

    *In Benghazi the locals are pissed with the WW2 grave destroyers*
    -*Al Sharia (the guys behind it) as they see them as decoupling they're hard-fought revolution by putting them at unwanted *odds with the West.*

    Libya still lacks any real Law & Order and the new tribal/militia power structure is a massive problem that hasn't been solved.

    Obama doesn't know how to handle it as he does not want to offend. Don't get me wrong, Bush nearly intentionally offended and made the US alot more hated then it needed be. But the fallacy of 'like me only' policy is being shown up.*

    What Obama needs to do is realise that their is a different attitude and belief system when it comes to justice over there. Forget Western attitudes, the ideas of people in the most Right Wing part of Texas are very different to the most liberal part of California.

    Let a Texan be a Texan, Let a Libyan be a Libyan. It ain't SOCAL

    Give the loyal militias the back up they need, find the perps, put them to a Libyan court, and then put them infront of a Libyan Govt firing squad.

    And if he did release from Gitmo, one of the guys who went and done it. Don't cover it up, admit it, learn from it, and move on. I'd rather be historically remembered for making the needed decisions, than winning a short term election popularity contest. Which is so expensive and decadent on both sides it's just laughable. What happened to exchanging intelligent debate against your rival?



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