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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    That is patently absurd.

    If you fail to understand how offensive an attack on Muhammed or the Patriarchs is to Muslim people, you have completely missed the boat.

    The vast majority don't riot, but its like spitting in their eyes.
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    This is patently absurd.

    The offended parties willingly looked at the video and reacted. I find certain images offensive regarding animal abuse, I do not look. If I do look I get offended and upset. There is no spittle in my eye nor do I expect the world to provide me special dispensation because I have a certain set of beliefs, values or principles.

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    The Obama administration spent $70,000 in tax payer funds in Pakistan to distance themselves from the movie they claim started this world wide violence. Just more irresponsibly on the part of the Obama administration by 1, squandering tax payer money, and by 2, appearing weak because of how they responded.

    Pakistanis can't vote for you. Or, wait, can they?

    All the Kool-aid drinkers here claimed the violence was from a "hand full" of Muslim fringe groups. Drink up believers!

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    Any US president with a brain would have disavowed that cheesy bit of insulting porn..

    Pakistanis aren't lobbying in Florida.. What the H are you talking about Pakistanis "voting"?

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    Yeah, so about the Benghazi attacks and the video...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    In Libya, the attacks had very little to do with the video (Asia Times Online :: Mr Blowback rising).

    Concerning the video itself, it was made by an Egyptian Coptic Christian by the name of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. (Nakoula Basseley Nakoula Claims Role In 'Innocence Of Muslims') The video, overall, was made to bring attention to the ongoing plight of Egypt Copts (Inside the Islamophobic-Religious Right Alliance Whose Film Sparked a Crisis in the Middle East | Alternet)
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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    ^^^
    This is patently absurd.

    The offended parties willingly looked at the video and reacted. I find certain images offensive regarding animal abuse, I do not look. If I do look I get offended and upset. There is no spittle in my eye nor do I expect the world to provide me special dispensation because I have a certain set of beliefs, values or principles.
    You are NOT a Muslim... American culture is NOT the same as culture in Libya..

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Yeah, so about the Benghazi attacks and the video...
    To bring attention to the Egyptian Copts? Now that is SPIN.

    Egyptian Copts hate this guy Nakoula and want him arrested.. Good grief.. He lost his Egyptian citizenship.

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    To bring attention to the Egyptian Copts? Now that is SPIN.

    Egyptian Copts hate this guy Nakoula and want him arrested.. Good grief.. He lost his Egyptian citizenship.
    I did not know this. Have any evidence?
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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I did not know this. Have any evidence?
    I think I have seen it in Cairo Times as well as al Bawaba and a couple of US news outlets.

    The big problem for Copts is that they are forbidden to EVER divorce. They get around that by converting to Islam, getting a divorce and then converting back to the Coptic Church. Nuts IMO.

    For the most part there is little friction between Egyptians and Egyptian Copts.. that is part of what makes Nakoula's film so vicious.

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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Any US president with a brain would have disavowed that cheesy bit of insulting porn..

    Pakistanis aren't lobbying in Florida.. What the H are you talking about Pakistanis "voting"?
    First, any idiot would know the US Government had nothing to do with the making of that film, even Muslims across the world. Second, the White House released statements picked up by news agencies across the world condemning the film. By paying for a video ad that cost $70,000 in tax payer contributions to make himself look good in a Muslim community is just more appeasement of the Muslim community.

    Since he became POTUS his pandering to Muslims have showed his weakness as a world leader. They don't like or respect him anymore than they did before. Now look at the results.

    But hey, what's money to the 6 trillion dollar man?
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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    You are NOT a Muslim... American culture is NOT the same as culture in Libya..
    Anyone who thinks being a Muslim entitles you to respond to non-violence with violence is deserving of their own ill will.
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    Re: Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    That is patently absurd. The Obama administration had NOTHING to do with producing or distributing the vulgar video.
    No one has claimed the administration had anything to do with producing or distributing the video, but in the backward countries of the ME where autocracy is the order of the day it is hard for the people to imagine anything being done without government approval.

    If you fail to understand how offensive an attack on Muhammed or the Patriarchs is to Muslim people, you have completely missed the boat.

    The vast majority don't riot, but its like spitting in their eyes.
    In the civilized part of the world we do not have bloody riots over patently offensive productions like "The Book Of Mormon" or "Piss Christ" and the rioting Muslims do no credit to their culture with their behavior. If you selectively abandon your free speech principles in the face of violence, you earn contempt rather than respect or affection.
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