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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    Because its easier to vote for a hand ou than a chance to work hard.
    This election isn't between hand outs and the chance to work hard. It's between hand outs for the rich and hand outs for the poor.
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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This election isn't between hand outs and the chance to work hard. It's between hand outs for the rich and hand outs for the poor.
    Sure it is Obama has increased food stamps and Wellfare more that any president

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    743. Create a hoax of a better off economy (10/29/2012)

    Three months before the voting date, the unemployment rate was still high that it made the re-election unlikely for Obama.

    What Does an 8.3 Percent Unemployment Rate Mean for the Election?

    By: Jon King | August 5, 2012

    Many pundits (including this one) have made the point that if the unemployment rate is at 8% or higher that the president will have an uphill battle to win the election.

    The reason why 8% is such a hurdle is that no modern president has ever won re-election when unemployment was over 8%. Actually, if one wants to take an even more skeptical view, they could say that no president since Roosevelt has won re-election with unemployment over 7.2%.

    What Does an 8.3 Percent Unemployment Rate Mean for the Election?
    It’s hard to convince people the unemployment rate would drop below 7.2% in two months from 8.3%. But they still could manage to get a figure of 7.8% in order to make Obama’s re-election more reasonable.

    Fact Check: Labor Secretary Solis Misleads on Jobs Revisions

    by Joel B. Pollak 5 Oct 2012

    Suspicion about the federal government's September jobs report has fallen on Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, who appeared on CNBC this morning and defended the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), claiming--falsely--that upward revisions of 86,000 jobs were from the private sector. In fact, the new number is entirely accounted for by upwards revisions to state and federal government payrolls.

    The BLS reported that while only 114,000 jobs were created in September--which would have translated into a rise in unemployment from 8.1% to 8.2%--the unemployment rate fell dramatically to 7.8%. That unusual drop is the fastest in nearly three decades, and was unexpected even in the rosiest predictions.

    One reason for the rise was an upward revision of 86,000 to the July and August jobs numbers--all of which came from a 91,000 increase in the estimate of public sector jobs. Private sector job estimates were actually revised downward by 5,000.

    In addition, the BLS reported a large rise in the number of part-time jobs, adding 600,000 jobs to the total--a dramatic increase of 7.5%, not explained by any other economic indicators--and raising questions about whether the government had changed the way it counted part-time workers.

    Fact Check: Labor Secretary Solis Misleads on Jobs Revisions
    Nobody can verify the figure. It’s all under their control. They could cover up the truth of 911 attack. They could make Bin Laden died twice. So what to maintain a puppet president? If they could have kept a war criminal (who activated a war with a lie) to stay on his second term, what’s the problem for another puppet? All they have to do is to create a hoax of a better off economy for several months then blame everything on the coming financial cliff.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This election isn't between hand outs and the chance to work hard. It's between hand outs for the rich and hand outs for the poor.
    Neither is good. Ideally, there would b eno need for hand-outs except for the few who are severely disabled (among which I don't count myself, though I'm considered multiply-disabled). If Romney truly created th e chance for all Americans to work hard, he'd certainly win, because the lazy make up a minority. Thing is, it's indeed mor eof Romney handing out cash to the rich.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    Sure it is Obama has increased food stamps and Wellfare more that any president
    And Harry Truman killed more people with Atomic Bombs.

    Hey, I'm not an Obama fan by any stretch, but that is conservative pundit hyperbole and bull****. What facts are you aware of that back the claims up? Now I must ask these silly questions. Can you be more specific in your claim?

    You know things like: What happened (what are the circumstances that would cause such a problem - be very careful and specific), when did Obama crank out massive amounts of welfare and food stamps? How did he do it without Congressional appropriations? What role did both chambers of Congress have in food stamps and welfare distribution...or did Obama do it all single handedly? At what point in his first term did the amount of welfare and food stamp distribution make history? Who were and are the main recipients of welfare and food stamps? What percentage of disabled and indigent elderly and children, who are totally dependent, and pretty much powerless and certainly political minorities, are recipients of welfare and food stamps.

    In other words...how about a breakdown of the facts.

    That's like the IRS...they publish a breakdown of the so-called 47% who don't pay taxes. It might surprise you to review the breakdown...the raw facts behind the claims that are used as political propaganda.

    And once again...I won't be happy to see Obama reelected, I think he blew it...but also, I won't be happy to see Romney as president as he can't delivery all he claims. Neither can...or will. In my opinion, neither qualify.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    744. Manipulation in Mother Nature’s guise (11/7/2012)

    The Feds like to play the God’s role to control people. In 2004, when they planned to keep a proved liar on chair for his second term, they said it was the “God’s will”.
    Pat Robertson predicted "I think George Bush is going to win in a walk, I really believe I'm hearing from the Lord it's going to be like a blowout election in 2004. It's shaping up that way."
    Eight years later, the Feds want to shape up the way for Obama. They play the God’s will in another way – in Mother Nature’s guise.

    If you still remember how storm Issac had disturbed the GOP Convention and suppressed Republican’s spirit.

    It was so coincident that Limbaugh alleged:

    Rush Limbaugh Says Obama Manipulated Isaac Storm Track To Delay GOP Convention: ‘The Hurricane Center Is … Obama’
    By Stephen Lacey on Aug 27, 2012
    Rush Limbaugh Says Obama Manipulated Isaac Storm Track To Delay GOP Convention: 'The Hurricane Center Is ... Obama' | ThinkProgress
    Then another coincidence came:

    Conspiracy Theorists Say Obama Engineered Hurricane Sandy
    By Elizabeth Flock October 29, 2012

    As Hurricane Sandy blasts the eastern seaboard just over a week before Election Day, a number of conspiracy theorists have decided President Barack Obama engineered the mega-storm to secure his re-election.

    InfoWars.com, TheIntelHub.com, and ConsfearacyNewz all posted stories over the last several days alleging that the The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP, helped the president engineer Sandy.

    Conspiracy Theorists Say Obama Engineered Hurricane Sandy - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
    Tuesday, Oct 30, 2012 05:28 AM PDT
    So what does Romney do now?

    If the hurricane freezes the presidential race in place, it's not good news for the GOP nominee
    By Steve Kornacki

    For Romney, the downside is obvious: Sandy has for now frozen the race in place – and where the race is right now isn’t good for him. If the election were held this moment, Barack Obama would probably be returned to office for a second term. The president is at best tied with Romney in the national horserace and at worst behind by a point, but he holds clear advantages in the most important battleground states and is much better-positioned to reach 270 electoral votes.

    Romney needs to shore up states like Virginia and Colorado and erase stubborn gaps in Ohio or Wisconsin and Iowa before next Tuesday. Momentum alone doesn’t seem like it will get him there. He surged in the wake of the first debate in Denver, but the race has settled into place since then. For lack of a better term, Romney is in need of some kind of jolt that would fix his swing state problem.

    Sandy severely complicates this task. For one thing, it has overtaken the presidential campaign as the top national story and will continue to do so for several days. Obama, as the president, has an obvious place in this story. The actions of the White House and the response of the federal government are integral to the clean-up, and Obama has a platform to showcase his presidential leadership. Romney, though, has no official role, and really can’t force his way into the story. There’s also the matter of unseemliness – it wouldn’t look too good for Romney to keep right on campaigning as the rest of the country takes stock of a natural disaster. Thus did Romney cancel events yesterday and again today.

    So what does Romney do now? - Salon.com
    745. Manipulation the election (11/12/2012)

    Boeing Announces Big Layoffs in Defense Division
    Published: Wednesday, 7 Nov 2012

    Boeing Announces Big Layoffs in Defense Division - US Business News - CNBC
    Watch the date of the announcement. The day next to the election day. Big lay off took some time to plan. Boeing is a big firm that under the control of the Feds. They don’t want to hurt Obama’s campaign so they sealed the bad news until he is re-elected. Same tactic was seen in other areas.

    Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
    November 10, 2012

    Nearly 421,000 new participants were added in just one month from the July 2012 figure of 46,681,917. Almost 2 million more participants were added in the last year when compared to the August 2011 figure of 45,794,474. There were about 32 million Americans on Food Stamps when President Barack Obama took office in January 2009.

    The U.S. Monthly Data report is typically issued at the end of the following month, or pushed slightly into next week if there is a weekend or holiday at the end of the month. For example, July 2012's numbers were released on September 28, 2012 (See below). However, the August 2012 report was released unusually late on November 9, 2012, well after the U.S. Presidential Election had taken place.

    Politics: Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
    Unemployment generally correlates with food-stamp enrollment. The Feds made it a sharp drop two months before the election day from 8.3% to 7.8%. I alleged the figure was rigged(see #743). It’s a big conflict to the Food Stamp Enrollment data. How the sharp drop of unemployment could cause a record high food stamp enrollment? To prevent the contradiction to hurt Obama’s election, we saw an unusual delay of Food stamp enrollment data releasing.

    Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
    November 10, 2012
    Nearly 421,000 new participants were added in just one month from the July 2012 figure of 46,681,917. Almost 2 million more participants were added in the last year when compared to the August 2011 figure of 45,794,474. There were about 32 million Americans on Food Stamps when President Barack Obama took office in January 2009.

    The U.S. Monthly Data report is typically issued at the end of the following month, or pushed slightly into next week if there is a weekend or holiday at the end of the month. For example, July 2012's numbers were released on September 28, 2012 (See below). However, the August 2012 report was released unusually late on November 9, 2012, well after the U.S. Presidential Election had taken place.

    Politics: Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    746. GOP is obedient to the Feds (11/21/2012)

    With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debate

    Much of Latin America was dismayed that they got only a glancing mention in Romney and Obama's final presidential debate.

    By Sara Miller Llana | Christian Science Monitor – 10/23/2012

    That means no candidate talked about the drug trade, despite historic violence playing out in Mexico, much of it along the 2,000-mile border that the US shares.

    http://news.yahoo.com/60-000-dead-me...141857504.html
    So far, the death toll in Syria is about 30,000, much less than 60,000. The media and US politicians beat the drum on civilians’ death there but keep a blind eye on its neighbor Mexico. Are the lives of the Muslim more valuable than Mexicans? No, it’s because this topic would certain to draw out a scandal – Operation Fast and Furious. It’s an Achilles’ heel of the Obama’s administration. Why the GOP and Romney hadn’t taken the advantage on this issue in election campaign? Because it’s the Feds that control this nation and the election. Eric Holder and D.O.J. committed the crime to supply the weapons to Mexican drug gangs and made Mexico a slaughtering field. The republican dares not to offend its master. So the issue was left alone.

    The cause that leads the Feds to keep Obama on his chair is they need his Healthcare for their case. (see “726. The surprise turnaround of Chief Justice (7/4/2012)”. Obama is the rare President who could be re-elected when unemployment was above 7.4%. After the failure, the Republican recognizes the intention of the Feds and bows down:

    Boehner: 'Obamacare is the law of the land'

    By Michael O'Brien, NBC News 11/8/2012



    Republicans' efforts to undo President Barack Obama's health care reform law appear to have come to an end, as House Speaker John Boehner described it Thursday as the "law of the land."

    Boehner: 'Obamacare is the law of the land' - NBC Politics

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