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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    I have no idea who you mean by they
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    Then you are unfamiliar with the Romney record of success. You should familiarize with the record of both candidates if you are going to vote in the US elections.

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    However, my point was they don't create anything. Entrepeneurs create careers and industries. Equity companies like Bain buy things created by others shuffle some numbers around to bump up the sale price or sell off the assets.
    All they do is "shuffle numbers around"? You apparently have no idea what entrepreneurs do or what people do when they try to save companies.

    You might want to think about this. Barrack Obama took billions of US tax dollars in what is called 'crony capitalism", put it into failed companies, and the taxpayers lost. He also put tax dollars into GM and is claiming that he saved thousands of jobs. Why should Mitt Romney not get credit for saving many more jobs with private money while Leftists will give BHO credit for saving GM with taxpayer dollars? Even Barrack Obama himself is not foolish enough to say that Romney didn't create jobs, nor does anyone share your abbreviated definition of what an entrepreneur really is either.


    I'm not much of a sports fan so I can't say how well they went even if they went fantastic BFD. Moreover, weren't those olympics the ones that had some issues with kickbacks\bribery.
    Yes, they had kickbacks and bribery, just as in what's going on in this Obama administration, but Romney cleaned it up. You should hope he can repeat this job for the United States and his record suggests that he can.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    Moreover, weren't those olympics the ones that had some issues with kickbacks\bribery.
    As a matter of fact, Romney was brought in to deal with the aftermath of the scandal you speak of...which he did quite well.
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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

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    Then you are unfamiliar with the Romney record of success. You should familiarize with the record of both candidates if you are going to vote in the US elections.

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    All they do is "shuffle numbers around"? You apparently have no idea what entrepreneurs do or what people do when they try to save companies.

    You might want to think about this. Barrack Obama took billions of US tax dollars in what is called 'crony capitalism", put it into failed companies, and the taxpayers lost. He also put tax dollars into GM and is claiming that he saved thousands of jobs. Why should Mitt Romney not get credit for saving many more jobs with private money while Leftists will give BHO credit for saving GM with taxpayer dollars? Even Barrack Obama himself is not foolish enough to say that Romney didn't create jobs, nor does anyone share your abbreviated definition of what an entrepreneur really is either.




    Yes, they had kickbacks and bribery, just as in what's going on in this Obama administration, but Romney cleaned it up. You should hope he can repeat this job for the United States and his record suggests that he can.
    I've had a front row seat on three occassions for what private equity companies do. I was an outside consultant for accounting and IT on all three occassions so I got to see up close up personal how they work.

    Yes Obama is really s***** but that doesn't make Romney good. Bush was s***** and that didn't make Obama good. I hate the donkeys and elephants. Both parties serve people who create and build nothing which has made us what we are today. A country of service providers.

    I made a clear distinction in my previous post between entrepeneurs and what companies like Bain do.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    I've had a front row seat on three occassions for what private equity companies do. I was an outside consultant for accounting and IT on all three occassions so I got to see up close up personal how they work.
    Were they successful in saving those troubled companies?


    Yes Obama is really s***** but that doesn't make Romney good.
    Afreed, but in fact Romney has a history of success. Obama had no real history and that's reflected in his inept, and dangerous, administration.

    Bush was s***** and that didn't make Obama good. I hate the donkeys and elephants. Both parties serve people who create and build nothing which has made us what we are today. A country of service providers.
    Then perhaps, if you cannot see the clear difference between the candidates, you should just withhold your vote.

    I made a clear distinction in my previous post between entrepeneurs and what companies like Bain do.
    Yes, and I commented on that.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    This is pretty simple...

    Obama can relate with people. Romney cannot.

    Obama has likable feel about him. Romney does not.

    Obama is guy you wanna have a beer with. Romney is not.

    It is what it is....people vote for who they like...not who they think will be the best leader.
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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Romney was hand groomed by the press to win the Republican nomination.
    They pumped him up any chance they got, only to attack after the convention.
    The surprise is not how poorly he is doing, but how well.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    It really is a weird polling atmosphere. People say they are worse off but have confidence in the economy when "worse off" is generally more a reflection of consumer confidence than reality. Traditionally most people are worse off compared to the national averages than they think they are already. To me, the numbers reflect more their lack of optimism for the future for themselves.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    This is pretty simple...

    Obama can relate with people. Romney cannot.

    Obama has likable feel about him. Romney does not.

    Obama is guy you wanna have a beer with. Romney is not.

    It is what it is....people vote for who they like...not who they think will be the best leader.
    Then that old saw about people getting the government they deserve will be played out. Too bad though that those who recognize the problem may be defeated by those who have no idea how wealth is created or how finances work.

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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then that old saw about people getting the government they deserve will be played out. Too bad though that those who recognize the problem may be defeated by those who have no idea how wealth is created or how finances work.
    Funny thing is that we're screwed with either candidate
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    Re: Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggli

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    I wouldn't vote for either one of those bastards. I'm not a fan of starting wars or letting bankers get away with laundering, fraud and theft. The courtry has been sliding for over thirty years. If you look at the numbers the only way the "middle class" has been able to maintain a decent lifestyle is through debt. Who the hell cares I guess let's have an election about rhetoric. Romney is going to get the jihadi's. Obama is going to get the fat cats.

    Government is not a business. For example, private prisons want high inmate counts while good government only wants to jail people if they represent a danger to society. Meshing those two motivations will lead to nasty outcomes. If you don't believe me read about Mississippi's private prison industry to get an idea of how those things can go bad. Moreover, private equity entities like Bain don't build jack sh**. The next big thing will come from some smart person with the nerve to pursue their idea not someone looking for distressed companies.
    So it's Rosanne Barr then?
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